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GagaJo Mon 07-Nov-22 18:28:41

I don't know what to do for the best.

My parents were divorced when I was 11. Younger brother stayed with father and his horrifically abusive wife (physical abuse of my bro). Despite this, my brother is the one who maintained contact with father. Not a lot, 2 or 3 phone calls a year.

My dad didn't see me at all after the divorce, until we briefly resumed contact when I got married. I cut this contact after 5 or 6 years because the memories were too traumatic. I don't regret this.

Fathers wife died about 6 months ago. Father has dementia and is in a home. My brother is down as his next of kin. BUT brother is seriously ill. Despite being younger than me, his life span is very shortened. He's in no way capable of sorting out anything for our father.

Should I step in? I'm happy to let our father go his grave with no contact from me. BUT I wonder if I should help, to avoid my brother being bothered with it. Equally, I worry if I DO get involved, that bro's family will worry I'm after our fathers money. I'm not. I'm happy for it to go to my brother. He needs the help due to his health problems.

MissAdventure Mon 07-Nov-22 18:31:15

I would step in for the sake of your brother.

Norah Mon 07-Nov-22 18:33:34

Sign away anything you'd receive, help your brother - for your brother.

Auntieflo Mon 07-Nov-22 18:37:11

GagaJo, could you not write a letter to your brother, asking if he would like you to help?
Sometimes easier said than done, but, my brother cut all contact with me for years. Then, out of the blue, he relented and we enjoyed a few months of contact before he died last year.
I wish you all the best.

GagaJo Mon 07-Nov-22 18:44:28

I'm in touch with my brother, well, through his wife. He's not well enough for phone calls etc.

Our mother died at the beginning of the year and he handled all of that. I worry that he'll think I consider him incapable if I interfere.

Lathyrus Mon 07-Nov-22 18:46:02

I think asking if he would like you to help is a good idea.

How old are his children? I had a similar situation with my abusive FIL but fortunately my children (his grandchildren) stepped up to the plate.

GagaJo Mon 07-Nov-22 18:54:17

His children are adults, but none of them are capable of handling this. I'm not even sure I am, but more so than my poor bro.

NotSpaghetti Mon 07-Nov-22 19:00:28

Lathyrus this was in my mind too.
I wondered if he might have family who would do it.

You could write to his wife and say you will offer help if she thinks your brother would want you to.
Say you are asking her because you are aware that he may be feeling stressed about it and you love him but you are writing to her as you don't want to hurt his feelings if he wants to do this for your father and is up to it.

Good luck. I hope you at least find out the best way to do this.
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NotSpaghetti Mon 07-Nov-22 19:01:33

GagaJo

His children are adults, but none of them are capable of handling this. I'm not even sure I am, but more so than my poor bro.

Then I would definitely contact his wife.
She will know you both want the best for your brother.

Blossoming Mon 07-Nov-22 19:02:50

NotSpaghetti that is good advice.

M0nica Mon 07-Nov-22 19:03:29

Gagajo I can see the problem. DH faced all sorts of accusations when and aunt and uncle made him the 'neutral' executor, because of fall outs with nearer relatives.

I wonder whether you could discuss this issue with your brother's wife and tell her that if you look after your father's affairs, you wll not use the opportunity to cheat them out of anything, including getting wills rewritten, and put it in writing as well.

Lathyrus Mon 07-Nov-22 19:03:33

Thinking about it, you might not even be able to help if you’re not named as next of kin.

They were awfully strict about letting me have access even to information about my MIL when she was in care, let alone handle any of her affairs.

What a muddle for you.

GagaJo Mon 07-Nov-22 19:14:11

Even my bro wasn't allowed to talk to our father when he went into the home, because they said it would distress him (dad).

VioletSky Mon 07-Nov-22 19:16:55

I would send your brother some sort of short letter or card offering to help if needed.

Then you have offered and your brother can decide what help he wants or needs.

That way if you aren't asked you know you offered and if you are asked, you are only doing as asked so less likely to be accused of taking over or trying to get favour?

Glorianny Mon 07-Nov-22 19:36:29

I think the best advice is to contact your brother through his wife. She will know what he is capable of coping with. She may very well welcome any help you offer. Perhaps explain the same things you have on this thread. I hope you manage to solve your problem, you seem to have a lot to deal with just now. Take care.

Hithere Mon 07-Nov-22 19:56:20

I would ask your brother (or his wife) how you can help

The danger with you helping your brother is what the future holds - would you get stuck in next of kin role for years?
This is more than helping your brother, it is about the long term

Barmeyoldbat Mon 07-Nov-22 20:37:19

Gagajoe, what a sad situation, I would do the contact through his wife and work with her. All the best

GagaJo Mon 07-Nov-22 21:25:33

Hithere

I would ask your brother (or his wife) how you can help

The danger with you helping your brother is what the future holds - would you get stuck in next of kin role for years?
This is more than helping your brother, it is about the long term

I think the problem is, if either myself or my brother don't do it, his OTHER next of kin is my uncle. Who cheated my father, my brother and I out of our half of the inheritance from our grandparents.

So if bro can't do it and I don't, if father dies and uncle is in charge, my brother will get nothing.

Bloody families.

Hithere Mon 07-Nov-22 21:30:38

I see your dilemma

Let me ask you, what are the chances your uncle may challenge the will asking your brother gets nothing?

Hithere Mon 07-Nov-22 21:30:58

Brother to get nothing

Nannagarra Mon 07-Nov-22 22:06:32

You are in contact with your sister-in-law. Explain to her that your motive is not to inherit; ask what she and her husband would like you to do. She will know the background and be glad of your support.