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Gaga, I completely understand where you are coming from because I live with an idiot who cannot be trusted!

This made me laugh though I can imagine you don't find the reality of it much of a laughing matter.

This is a good thread .... your daughter has been ‘unthinking’ rather than selfish..... my daughter has been into my garden once since February .... she will NOT come into house as she knows her brother comes in once every three weeks, as we need a bit of help sometimes( no hugging or kissing). She is right to be careful.... she has been hospitalised 34 times, with chronic/acute asthma, from 3 years old to 40, so far! Twice in intensive care ! She’s been shielding for the advised time ( Asthma Association advice not government).... and she’ll continue to be extra careful for as long as she thinks it’s necessary. She’s not stepped foot in a shop since February. I would rather I never hugged my daughter again than be the instigator of her being Ill. Your daughter needs telling to socially distance from you , if she’s not prepared to stop her reckless behaviour.

Lovely helpful post. Helped me too xx

I work overseas as a teacher, nothing earth shattering. Low rate of virus there.

I wish I fit the way you imagine me! I have been on diets for virtually my whole adult life Natasha. Spare me any 'expert' advice you night have. I could give some background info but I don't owe anyone an explanation.

Daughter assured me they were social distancing, which I accepted although wasn't happy. Turned out once her friends family got ill, she admitted she hadn't been.

Anyway, their results are negative, so I've calmed down. Hopefully she'll be more sensible until I've gone. Friend and family are ill at the mo anyway.

She's an adult and can make her kwn decisions. Just the same as Gagaojo has made her own decisions

Don't expect to rely on intergenerational social bubbles to protect you. Virtually everyone I know is part of overlapping bubbles, more like Venn diagrams.

I can distance from daughter. But neither of us can distance from her son! Try staying away from a 2 year old.

Daughter was the one at the beginning of the virus to say that she thought she wouldn't get it too badly if she was unlucky enough to contract C19.And that her son / GS would be safe and that it was me that would be at risk. Of course, that was before younger people started being badly affected and children started getting Kawasaki symptoms.

Bibisarah What on earth is wrong with someone driving a child in a car, whether to get them to sleep, or for any other reason? There is no more risk of infecting anyone that way than there is of picking up Covid while taking a walk well away from anyone else.

Some people really have very strange ideas of risky behaviour.

Yes I was wondering that too Greengran, not sure how you would be a risk to others in a car with just your child

Nannan2. Gagajo does not fly back and forth constantly.she had to return to a teaching job in Switzerland and really had. I choice. Her daughter chose to spend time with friend across the road.
Don’t think your comment about losing weight was particularly mind either.
Hope all goes well with the testing gagajo

BibiSarah

Jo, where I live we have a lady who is constantly on social media telling people to stay home, don't go out etc etc etc yet she can see no wrong in the fact she drives her little girl round the block every night to get her to sleep.

People now refer to her as 'don't do as Emily does do as Emily says' and whilst I'm aware of her reasons for doing what she does she's kind of set herself up for the ridicule and accusations of hypocrisy from others.

It can't be much fun getting on a plane just now and I know some of my lot who are flight deck crew have their own thoughts on the matter but life really does have to go on because Covid isn't going away anytime soon.

“People” don’t know what they are talking about In that case!
So please come back and explain what the problem is with driving you own child in your own car.!?

Thanks Lucca. I've developed a cough and headache, but obviously not from daughter's friend as she's tested negative. Could be psychodynamic. I'm neurotic at the best of times.

Lucca

*Nannan2*. Gagajo does not fly back and forth constantly.she had to return to a teaching job in Switzerland and really had. I choice. Her daughter chose to spend time with friend across the road.
Don’t think your comment about losing weight was particularly mind either.
Hope all goes well with the testing gagajo

So so many typos. No choice. Kind, not mind.

I think we are all in danger of becoming neurotic, if we weren't already!

Nanapat1 - I was wondering the same and so Quizqueen has a very valid point.
Gagajo - please calm down and stop panicking - likely as not you are more at risk from your work than you are from your daughter and her contacts - - or is it guilt that’s making you react like this ?

No, it's not guilt. I mostly financially support my daughter and GS with my work, so I obviously have nothing to feel guilty about. If I didn't work, their lives would be very different to the way they are now. For most people work IS essential.

Yes, my flying does put me at risk. I'm aware of that. I do everything I can to reduce it, but it's still there. That is an essential risk though. No way around it. I don't take any other risks. And given my financial support, I don't think it's too much to at least socially distance (which she admitted she wasn't doing).

But yes. All OK for now. And I'm gone again soon, so the risks she takes after that are her business.

Bibisarah What on earth is wrong with someone driving a child in a car, whether to get them to sleep, or for any other reason?

I think I perhaps didn't explain the situation properly.

We don't live in the Uk and whilst we had a lockdown situation it wasn't that strict and as long as people followed very simple guidelines from the government we were pretty much left to personal responsibility. So for eg one person (the same person) from a family could go to the supermarket whilst wearing a mask and gloves but Emily would berate people for doing so because according to her they should be using online services. They shouldn't be going out at all. It just wasn't necessary. Everyone should be staying at home full stop - unless you were Emily and you wanted to get your wee one to sleep. And if it took half an hour or 45 minutes of driving around and you having to stop at a petrol station to get a bottle of water because you hadn't taken any with you then so be it. That was ok.

I understood why she was driving around to get her wee one to sleep but she really should have had the sense to not berate other people for going out/to the shops, as well as for other choices they'd made all within the guidelines.

*People” don’t know what they are talking about In that case!
So please come back and explain what the problem is with driving you own child in your own car.!?*

I replied to a previous poster without seeing your post. You seem very angry and its why I would have ignored you even I had seen it. You don't get to summons people for a reply even if you do say please - the exclamation marks and multiple full stops in a post are generally more of an indication of the poster than any pretence of politeness.

I think Im inclined to forget at times Im not posting locally and people aren't aware of situations in different parts of the world but I'm going to make more of an effort from now on to help people with their understanding.

It's obviously been very wrong of me to think people will be aware that not all posters live in the UK and perhaps things are done differently in different parts of the world.

GagaJo

Thanks Lucca. I've developed a cough and headache, but obviously not from daughter's friend as she's tested negative. Could be psychodynamic. I'm neurotic at the best of times.

Gagajo around 8 children in every 100,000 develop Kawasaki disease each year in the UK. It has been around for quite a long time pre-COVID and is quite rare.

Children who may catch COVID are more than likely to have it mildly or be symptomless.

They have tested negative.

Don't panic. Just make sure he eats well and gets plenty of fresh air and take sensible precautions. You don't want him to pick up on your anxiety, he doesn't know what's happening around him, thank goodness.
Turn handwashing etc into a game.

The woman's children are hugely unlikely to pick up the virus at nursery. Pretty sure there is no record at all of any child passing on the disease to a parent. You too have taken risks, travelling. If you have then isolated yourself for 2 weeks then fair enough. If not, isn't it a case of pot/kettle? I do hope the tests come back negative - but people still get colds, with nothing sinister about them. My husband had one last week. It was just a cold! Good luck. x

Daughter has now lost her sense of taste and smell and both she and grandson have upset stomachs. I don't know if that is on the list of symptoms here, but my friends in China relate it as a symptom. Typical that my car is out of action so we can't do a drive thru test. We've ordered postal tests instead.

At least you'll know then. It may not be, there are plenty of other bugs around and some do have loss of smell as a symptom.?

I hope they get better soon.

BibiSarah

*People” don’t know what they are talking about In that case!
So please come back and explain what the problem is with driving you own child in your own car.!?*

I replied to a previous poster without seeing your post. You seem very angry and its why I would have ignored you even I had seen it. You don't get to summons people for a reply even if you do say please - the exclamation marks and multiple full stops in a post are generally more of an indication of the poster than any pretence of politeness.

I think Im inclined to forget at times Im not posting locally and people aren't aware of situations in different parts of the world but I'm going to make more of an effort from now on to help people with their understanding.

It's obviously been very wrong of me to think people will be aware that not all posters live in the UK and perhaps things are done differently in different parts of the world.

Not angry at all ! Just bewildered.
Not a summons at all just a request ...note the word “please”

GagaJo

Daughter has now lost her sense of taste and smell and both she and grandson have upset stomachs. I don't know if that is on the list of symptoms here, but my friends in China relate it as a symptom. Typical that my car is out of action so we can't do a drive thru test. We've ordered postal tests instead.

Hope it all goes well for you.

Good luck Gaga. Have your daughter or grandson been anywhere else? Have you? Time to start thinking it through