Over 1800 deaths yesterday

UK excess deaths since start of pandemic surpass 100,000, data suggest

www.ft.com/content/5f7b58fb-97ad-4fef-bbc9-b71d328c6700

At last they have admitted that this new variant is killing more people than the original one,whih i think was obvious from the sudden rise in deaths and hospitalisation
Did anyone see the update at 5pm on BBC1?

Alegrias1 yes they did at the beginning,they said it is more transmissible,but not as serious
I am not a conspiracy theorist at all,that is what was said
Tonight on the BBC1 update they have said different

MaisieD nothing to do with being racist,.all the borders were supposed to be closed to everyone,
The airlines were supposed to be closed much earlier,wherever they came from and weren't,
Which is another reason the new variants have been brought in, but it's true that the camp where the asylum seekers are has got an outbreak

The prospects, even with the vaccine, are not looking good at all. We are going to be locked into this for a long time to come.

i don't remember them saying re the new strain that it was less serious.
i remember them saying that it was equally as serious, no more, but more infectious.
now they are saying that it results in greater mortality, so more serious after all. as well as being more infectious.

blondenana

MaisieD nothing to do with being racist,.all the borders were supposed to be closed to everyone,
The airlines were supposed to be closed much earlier,wherever they came from and weren't,
Which is another reason the new variants have been brought in, but it's true that the camp where the asylum seekers are has got an outbreak

It's also true that mutations (variants) arise spontaneously and randomly. Every time a virus is transmitted, a change can happen in its genetic code. Some of those changes cause the virus to be less viable and become harmless. Others cause it t become more virulent and it will come to dominate the original virus, which is what's happened here.

You have absolutely no evidence that the new variant arrived with asylum seekers or anybody else who has arrived in the country by any means.

It really isn't surprising that Covid is rife in the camps where asylum keepers are kept, if you look at the conditions in which they're living. It is equally as possible that somebody who is supervising them has introduced infection to the camp.

welbeck

i don't remember them saying re the new strain that it was less serious.
i remember them saying that it was equally as serious, no more, but more infectious.
now they are saying that it results in greater mortality, so more serious after all. as well as being more infectious.

It's being said that it's a possibility, not that it's certain.

Portsmouth also high numbers. - Another port - not asylum seekers but a goods entry / exit point.

Portsmouth has quite high numbers (as has most of the country), but they're not that high when compared with many other places.

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I’ve been watching feel good travel programmes. Rick Steins Cornwall, Robison Green in Northumberland. All those lovely Ch5 programmes. The only thing unusual about them was that no one stood close to anyone else. Which made me realise how almost normal life was in the summer when these programmes were filmed compared to now (at least it was for the people in the programmes:I was still shielding). And sometimes comments about lockdown as if that was it and there wouldn’t be another one. It made me feel terribly sad when I think about where we are now. And also how this lockdown isn’t really a lockdown compared to the first one. It made me sad as well thinking how much I was enjoying these programmes because I realised it was because tv and the internet was allowing me to revisit places I’d been to but young people weren’t able to do the things I did when I was younger. Anyway: back to the BBC4 programme about Paris....