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Friend breaking Government guidelines re holidays

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Northernlass Wed 16-Jun-21 09:57:15

A close friend is determined to take her usual holiday, quite soon, with family (all live spread out across the country).
There will be at least 10 people, from 5 or 6 households; 3 of them live in Delta variant hot spots. People who live in these areas have been asked to limit travel, for obvious reasons; they'll be travelling about 300 miles.
I feel upset about it - I see it as completely selfish. I do understand the desire to be with family and pretend everything is 'normal'.
How would others handle it?

rosie1959 Mon 21-Jun-21 13:39:00

Hopefully after 19th July all this madness can stop. We stayed in a hotel 8 of us in 3 rooms When we went to dinner the poor waitress said I am only supposed to sit table of 6. I pointed out we were 2 households we spend all out time together anyway and we’re not likely to be socially distanced from each other on holiday Thankfully she gave us a table for 8

love0c Mon 21-Jun-21 14:39:54

Just remember hotels are open all over the country. They are full of strangers so you do not know where they have been. At least you know where your family have been. Look at he people at the G7!! From all over the world and practically hugging each other. Are they stupid? or do they know something that we 'plebs' don't??

MayBee70 Mon 21-Jun-21 15:28:13

The world leader at G7 had all been vaccinated and were tested daily I believe.

Mattsmum2 Mon 21-Jun-21 15:49:11

I have fallen out so many times with relatives that think they’re ok to swerve the rules, including trying to persuade me to travel to a high risk area as I should visit! I resisted as I have a heart condition and had not been vaccinated at the time.
I’ve realised now that I can’t change what people do or think and to do so stressed me out so much, so I’ve stopped trying. I will do what I think is right and keep myself safe. Life is a risk and we all have to make our own decisions for ourselves and our loved ones. What I won’t do now is contemplate others actions. Let it go!

PinkCakes Mon 21-Jun-21 15:52:40

Northernlass I'd handle it quite simply - I'd mind my own business, let others do whatever they like. After all, if you're obeying the rules, you're ok, aren't you?

MayBee70 Mon 21-Jun-21 17:21:24

But what other people do, in the middle of a pandemic, affects all of us.

Mattsmum2 Mon 21-Jun-21 17:23:26

MayBee70

But what other people do, in the middle of a pandemic, affects all of us.

Only if we allow it.

Sarnia Tue 22-Jun-21 08:24:58

When the media shows celebrities, footballers, politicians etc. breaking the Covid rules, it stands to reason that there will be some who think why can't they do the same. I have tickets booked for mid-July to see my daughter and her family in Yorkshire. The Kirklees area where they live is an area of concern for the Delta variant. If they put restrictions in place regards movement in that area then I won't go. I shall be really upset as I haven't seen them for 17 months but unless we stick to the rules we are postponing Freedom Day for everybody and as far as I am concerned that is grossly unfair.

Biscuitmuncher Tue 22-Jun-21 08:44:06

Funny how it's ok for politicians to travel all over the world and hug and party, but your friend is the worst person in the world for going on holiday with her family

Biscuitmuncher Tue 22-Jun-21 08:46:40

love0c I think they know something they're not letting on

love0c Tue 22-Jun-21 08:57:35

Biscuitmuncher I have thought this for a while now. So many things do not add up. We have had two vaccinations now but no more. Two is our limit.

Ellianne Tue 22-Jun-21 09:02:17

I think many will be asking what is the point of 2 jabs if we are still going to be restricted or worse still locked down.

maddyone Tue 22-Jun-21 10:40:52

Ellianne

I think many will be asking what is the point of 2 jabs if we are still going to be restricted or worse still locked down.

I absolutely agree with this. Later this week I’m going to meet an old friend I haven’t seen for thirty years. We lost touch but managed to become acquainted again via Messenger. I live on the south coast and she lives in Lancashire, in a small place near, but not in, Greater Manchester. We’re having coffee together for an hour or so at the hotel she’s staying in, then they’re continuing with their holiday. Having had Covid I became a bit nervous about it, because I don’t want to be that ill again. However I gave myself a good talking to, and reminded myself that my husband and I are both fully vaccinated, and have any benefit there is to be had from actually having the disease. I checked that my friend had also been fully vaccinated, and they both are, not surprisingly. We’ll follow social distancing guidelines, and if possible sit outside, but with the weather as it is, it may not be possible. So I’m going ahead with the catch up. I don’t know what others think, but I’m thinking if I can’t meet a fully vaccinated friend, having been fully vaccinated myself, what is the point of the vaccine?

greenlady102 Tue 22-Jun-21 10:46:56

GillT57

It's a tricky one. Your friend is certainly stretching the regulations, but today, we have thousands at Ascot.

Isn't Ascot a part of the pilot project thing?

rosie1959 Tue 22-Jun-21 11:11:17

Ascot is part of a pilot test
I have had both vaccines so life has to go on if not there would be little point in having them
There will be people who choose not to have the vacinne that is up to them. We have someone who works for us in our office who cannot have the vaccine but I have to trust our vacination will do their jobs

Ellianne Tue 22-Jun-21 13:10:30

I'm on my third lot of friends from London staying this weekend. Do I turn them away? Of course not, we are all fully vaccinated and they have had covid. We could still be in this same tricky situation next year, so life has to go on now.

Lucca Wed 23-Jun-21 08:00:23

A bit off thread but I’ve just read that all restrictions will be off, including masks. I think I will feel uncomfortable with masks not being worn in shops etc. It all seems a bit much at the same time. I do hope we don’t end up with more lockdowns in the new school year.

Maggiemaybe Wed 23-Jun-21 09:12:07

I feel confident now that I’ve had both jabs. Yes, we’re all right, Jack. But I won’t be breaking any rules until all adults have had the chance of at least one vaccine dose. Until then, younger people are still vulnerable and even though unlikely to be seriously ill, they can end up with long Covid, which can be life-changing. The majority of them have no choice as to whether they mix with the public - they’re often out serving in shops and bars, etc. I don’t think it’s much to ask for us lucky double-vaccinated oldies to stick to a few guidelines for just a few short weeks more, to try to keep a bit of a lid on infection rates.

rosie1959 Wed 23-Jun-21 09:21:13

Lucca

A bit off thread but I’ve just read that all restrictions will be off, including masks. I think I will feel uncomfortable with masks not being worn in shops etc. It all seems a bit much at the same time. I do hope we don’t end up with more lockdowns in the new school year.

I have read that too Lucca first time in the Daily Mail which I don’t tend to take much notice of, but then again in The Times.
So hopefully it will all go ahead as planned

Lucca Wed 23-Jun-21 09:40:59

I’d still prefer masks to be worn for a few months, it’s no hardship really

Callistemon Wed 23-Jun-21 10:22:01

greenlady102

GillT57

It's a tricky one. Your friend is certainly stretching the regulations, but today, we have thousands at Ascot.

Isn't Ascot a part of the pilot project thing?

Do they realise they will just be guinea pigs in daft hats?

It's tricky, we were due to meet up with family this weekend but now postponed yet again.

- in a group of up to 6 from any number of households (children of all ages count towards the limit of 6)
Yet, oddly enough, Welsh children aged 11 and under can't be infectious as they are not counted in the total.

rosie1959 Wed 23-Jun-21 10:34:31

Lucca

I’d still prefer masks to be worn for a few months, it’s no hardship really

I am sure some people will continue and wouldn't be surprised if they are still necessary on public transport.
We are going to Jersey next week where face masks have been dropped but you still have to wear them on buses. I will be grateful not to wear them in the hotel and around shops especially if its warm.

maddyone Wed 23-Jun-21 10:52:44

Enjoy your holiday in Jersey Rosie.

Teacheranne Wed 23-Jun-21 11:03:20

Mattsmum2

I have fallen out so many times with relatives that think they’re ok to swerve the rules, including trying to persuade me to travel to a high risk area as I should visit! I resisted as I have a heart condition and had not been vaccinated at the time.
I’ve realised now that I can’t change what people do or think and to do so stressed me out so much, so I’ve stopped trying. I will do what I think is right and keep myself safe. Life is a risk and we all have to make our own decisions for ourselves and our loved ones. What I won’t do now is contemplate others actions. Let it go!

I totally agree with you and I too have stopped fretting about how other people behave. But it still upsets me somewhat as their actions are contributing to the rise in cases of the new variant in my local area, Greater Manchester.

rosie1959 Wed 23-Jun-21 17:47:40

Thank you maddyone