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Your MP's performance, policy and manifesto, or party leader?

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trisher Mon 08-May-17 18:27:07

There has been a lot of chat about the leaders of the parties and who would be the better PM, but I wonder if this is what you think about when you vote. How good is your MP? Would you vote against them if they are inadequate? Or are you looking at TM and JC and voting for their party?
I have an excellent MP who works so hard and is active in the community.so I will be voting for her. Fortunately she is a member of the party I prefer.
Are you influenced at all by what is in the manifesto?

Ana Mon 08-May-17 18:50:38

Sigh...

MamaCaz Mon 08-May-17 19:36:55

Our local MP is Andrea Leadsom. Great local MP from all accounts (and she was even out and about the day after the council elections last week making herself available to anyone who wanted to talk to her - previously unheard of in our tiny village where we rarely even get the postal pre-election bumph, let alone in-person visitS! Unfortunately, I no longer believe a word that the Conservatives say, having seen how they have manipulated the media and taken us all for fools since 2010, so can't bring myself to vote for her now even if she personally is the best local candidate.

Luckygirl Mon 08-May-17 19:59:10

I am in a similar situation. Our MP is a good MP - he lives locally and is part of the community - I have played alongside him in a community band. He takes up local causes, is visible and engaged, and is a decent guy. But I cannot vote for him, as I would be contributing to the election of one more MP for a party whose policies I disagree with. On this occasion I will be voting with the national situation at the forefront of my mind.

whitewave Mon 08-May-17 20:03:12

mama she is useless as environment minister - knows b-----r all!

varian Mon 08-May-17 21:46:08

Do not vote for a Tory, (except possibly for Ken Clarke). Even if you think you've got a good constituency MP. What matters in this election is the future of our country.

If you are considering voting Labour, ask if the candidate supports Brexit. If the answer is yes, vote LibDem. If you can, vote LibDem. The more LibDem MPs the better, but the most important thing is to defeat the Hard Brexit Tories.

Iam64 Mon 08-May-17 22:14:31

We have had the same excellent Labour MP for 20 years. Prior to his election, we were one of those marginals that predicted the outcome of the general election. He will get my vote.

I don't see my vote as for JC or TM but for the future of the country. I expect to be accused of doom mongering but I'm genuinely concerned at the prospect of 5 more years of attacks on our NHS and public services.

I could vote LibDem in a constituency where the competition was between the LibDems and the Conservatives because voting Labour might let the Tory in. I couldn't vote LibDem in a constituency where the only outcome will be either a Conservative or a Labour MP. I'm not a JC fan but I trust the LP with public services and I don't trust the Conservatives, based on what I have seen them do.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 22:43:20

My MP is leaving anyway, to spend more time with her grandchildren.
She is being replaced by another very good hardworking woman, an anti-racism education officer, so I'll vote for her, in order not to allow another Tory in by the back door.

paddyann Mon 08-May-17 22:44:38

anyone but a tory ,I will vote for the party I beleive will be best for MY country but for those who dont want to vote SNP I'll repeat my first statement.Vote anyone BUT a tory

paddyann Mon 08-May-17 22:44:50

anyone but a tory ,I will vote for the party I beleive will be best for MY country but for those who dont want to vote SNP I'll repeat my first statement.Vote anyone BUT a tory

MaizieD Mon 08-May-17 22:47:05

I'd be very surprised if the Labour candidate doesn't win in our constituency so however I vote won't make any difference...but I'll be happy for Labour to get it.

durhamjen Mon 08-May-17 23:23:31

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But you are going to vote, aren't you, Maizie? Complacency lets the others in.
Have you noticed how on the news they are talking about how many didn't vote for Macron? That doesn't make sense.

Eloethan Tue 09-May-17 00:21:31

I have mixed feelings about my local Labour MP. She is very popular with the media and I think that is because she tends only to tackle issues that the majority of people would like tackled - such as extortionate pay day lenders.

Having said that, she is a hardworking and conscientious local MP and although her political stance isn't really mine some people are very happy with her and she hasn't, like some Labour MPs and ex-MPs, tried to undermine the Labour Party's election campaign so, on balance, I'm cautiously OK with her.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 00:23:46

Of course I'll vote, dj. I've never missed GE yet.

grannypiper Tue 09-May-17 08:26:19

My local M.P is very choosy about what she does and where she is seen so much so she is almost invisible but to be fair she spent a lot of time interviewing her son for the job of assistant. oh and pushing her son in law to stand for local election (whilst trying to hide his pro Irish republican texts and tweets).

Cindersdad Tue 09-May-17 08:26:43

My MP is not noted for his performance, his leader even less so. To date I have not received any leaflets from anyone so don't know who is standing. I have always voted Lib Dem though my previous MP Claire Curtis Thomas (Labour) was an excellent constituency member who ALWAYS replied to correspondence. I want my MP to be his/her own person prepared to stand on principle even if that means ruffling party feathers and at times the constituency party.

Welshwife Tue 09-May-17 09:03:35

The MP in our constituency for many years was a very good MP and worked hard for the people. He changed at the last GE to leave Westminster and instead be a Welsh Assembly member. I have little idea about the current Member but as I know he voted with Brexit etc I shall this time vote for another party.

TerriBull Tue 09-May-17 09:39:34

We have a new MP, Tania Matthias, who managed to overturn Vince Cable's majority, she hasn't been an MP for very long but I think she is popular locally. However, VC is standing again, he has his fans, but I'm not one of them, he ran a very complacent campaign last time with a "better to vote for me rather than an unknown quantity" and certainly Lib Dems didn't appear in our neck of the woods, giving some of us impression they'd got it in the bag. Lib Dems lost a lot of seats around London, including Ed Davy's adjacent Surbiton. They did of course win back Richmond Park, that wasn't really a surprise after Brexit, but then again Richmond upon Thames' residents don't really reflect the rest of the country. Tania Matthias is a remainer so the outcome here is anyone's guess.

yggdrasil Tue 09-May-17 09:53:00

My current MP seems a nice enough man, and he does answer emails. However, he is a Tory who took over from a well liked Lib Dem at the last election, and she is standing again.
Where I live, there is no point in voting for my principles, no-one else has a cat's chance in hell, so I will vote for her.
I would really like the STV system of voting, with multi party constituencies. That would be better for the people in the constituency, and a bit less pressure on the MPs. Then I could actually vote for what I believe in.

M0nica Tue 09-May-17 16:51:40

Since I have never been in a constituency with an outstanding MP, that is a choice I have never been faced with.

Usually I go on the political philosophy of the party I support and then look at how this philosophy is expressed in the manifesto. I usually vote Lib Dem but in 1979 and 1997 I so disliked the party in power (Cons in one case, Lab in the other) that I seriously considered voting the opposite to make every effort to get them out, but in each case I had such severe doubts about the relevant leaders (Mrs Thatcher and Tony Blair) that I ended up voting Lib Dem as usual. And my gut reaction about those two leaders was right.

durhamjen Wed 10-May-17 22:45:39

I hvae just been reading that people are asking if we have two votes, one for May/Corbyn and the other for our local MP!

M0nica Thu 11-May-17 21:51:02

which is why we should not be having an election until 2020. The British Parliamentary system is NOT presidential. We vote for the MP and party of our choice and the leader of that party leads the government,nregardess of whether they were the leader at the time of the election.

This election is reinforcing the cult of the leader.

Anniebach Thu 11-May-17 22:36:56

We haven't that problem in Wales, Corbyn isn't spoken of , we are supporting Carwyn who is the leader of Welsh Labour and working for Welsh Labour and Welsh Labour MP's .

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 00:11:54

No you are not. Carwyn Jones is leader of the Welsh Assembly - nothing to do with Westminster.
You are just trying to kid yourselves.
Forty Welsh MPs in the commons, 25 of them Labour, and all have Corbyn as their leader, not Carwyn Jones.

grannyactivist Fri 12-May-17 01:03:21

I live in a constituency where even the Tory's joke that as long as he was wearing a blue rosette even a goat would be elected. However my local MP was rarely seen in the constituency until he got a shock at the last election when an Independent Candidate actually gave him a bit of a run for his money. Once his school chum Cameron resigned our MP was relegated to the back benches and now he's on his mettle as the same Independent Candidate is standing against him again. She did so well last time that I think people are actually beginning to believe she could do the unthinkable and unseat him this time round. She will certainly get my vote again.