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tonight's tv debate

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varian Wed 31-May-17 20:04:56

Are you watching tonight's tv debate?

There is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, Tim Farron, leader of the Labour party, Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Greens, Caroline Lucas, leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood, deputy leader of SNP, Angus Robertson, leader of UKIP, Paul Nuttall and someone called Amber Rudd, who seems to be standing in for the leader of the Tories.

What do you make of it?

whitewave Wed 31-May-17 20:09:42

Amber who?grin

whitewave Wed 31-May-17 20:11:38

She is looking ridiculous.

Difficult choices like kicking the disabled and poor

Ana Wed 31-May-17 20:14:34

Where's the choice in that? Shouldn't it be either/or?

Lazigirl Wed 31-May-17 20:14:35

I think Tim Farron started really well. Caroline Lucas just said we are not a poor country, the money is just in the wrong hands. Bravo Caroline. smile

whitewave Wed 31-May-17 20:16:40

Rudd has no figures to give to anyone
What a joke

Lazigirl Wed 31-May-17 20:26:05

I can see why May didn't want to debate tonight - she is not strong and stable, she can't cope when under fire and has no script.

varian Wed 31-May-17 20:34:16

Tim Farron and Caroline Lucas are coming across most strongly

Lazigirl Wed 31-May-17 20:41:41

I agree varian but Tim's just insulted me. I am a Guardian reader but don't own a hair shirt or eat muesli!

POGS Wed 31-May-17 21:04:54

Just a load of shouting over one another.

Load of squabbling kids.

Pittcity Wed 31-May-17 21:06:05

Amber Rudd didn't know the rules of Monopoly.

varian Wed 31-May-17 21:08:00

Amber Rudd kept using the stupid slogan "coalition of chaos" yet what we saw was a considerable degree of agreement between five of the speakers in the debate. I preferred all of them to the threadbare coalition of the Tories and UKIP

varian Wed 31-May-17 21:10:21

There is a good follow up discussion on the BBC news channel right now

GracesGranMK2 Wed 31-May-17 21:10:43

I thought they would be able to support one another if there was a hung parliament on many issues Varian.

durhamjen Wed 31-May-17 21:20:50

Varian, did you watch Damien Green just lose votes in Cambridge? He said that the reason May wasn't there was because she was out meeting real people..

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:23:41

It debunked the "coalition of chaos" mantra. Rudd was appalling. She came across as a bully, who shows utter contempt for the people of this country.

I don't agree with everything the other parties are advocating, but they showed core values, with which I agree and would be capable of forming a progressive coalition.

A few weeks ago, I had little time for Corbyn, but he has challenged my thinking and risen in my estimation.

PS. UKIP is history.

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:27:06

What are unreal people?

May has no interpersonal skills. She can't relate to her voters and the rumour is that the Conservative Party doesn't like her much either. The knife sharpeners will be huddling and deciding on their next move.

Even the media is coming round to the idea that Corbyn is more personable and genuine.

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:28:03

X post varian. I agree. What we saw was people who could work together and sort out their differences.

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:29:00

POGS, You obviously didn't watch the same programme I did.

rosesarered Wed 31-May-17 21:30:54

Haha! Work together and sort out their differences? You jest?
All that shouting over each other and squabbling....thought Rudd was absolutely right in saying that's what you would get if Corbyn was propped up by others in power, a real coalition of chaos all right!

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:31:15

Caroline Lucas is a one off. I don't agree with everything she says, but she's one of the few "statespeople" we have in this country.

Hopefully, when her days as an MP are over, she will be given a place in the House of Lords. For once, I think her position would be justified.

rosesarered Wed 31-May-17 21:32:33

What did surprise me was how badly Farron speaks,compared to the others his sentences and vocabulary were all over the place, not impressive.

rosesarered Wed 31-May-17 21:34:44

Aroline Lucas and Andrew Robertson always speak well.I just don't agree with what they are saying.

rosesarered Wed 31-May-17 21:35:06

Sorry, typo...Caroline

daphnedill Wed 31-May-17 21:35:20

I also have respect for Tim Farron. Unfortunately (even as a LD member), I think their campaign has been poor and there's a strong possibility that both Farron and Clegg will lose their seats. It will be a huge shame, because I think both care about their country and have good ideas, but can't drag the popularvite to their view.

Both Farron and Clegg have a great amount to contribute on a national level.