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When is she going to fire him? (Boris)

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Nandalot Tue 07-Nov-17 13:34:36

Boris may have caused a British Iranian woman’s sentence in Iran to be doubled to 10 years by something Liam Fox calls ‘ a slip of the tongue’.The woman was on holiday with her family in Iran when she was accused of spying. Johnson said she was there teaching journalism which the Iranian authorities leapt on as spreading propaganda. I don’t think May will give him the boot. She fears him too much to let him loose. Meanwhile, the UK, and this poor woman, have to endure the repercussions of his ‘slips of the tongue’.

durhamjen Fri 17-Nov-17 13:52:44

"The British government admits it owes Iran up to £300m, but the countries have wrangled over the precise sum and whether any payment could be made while Tehran was still under EU economic sanctions for its nuclear programme.

Downing Street insists there is no link between the dispute and efforts by the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, to release the Iranian dual national Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe during an expected visit to the country soon.

The chances of a settlement in the Chieftain tank dispute are high since both sides have given ground over the sum involved and because economic sanctions were lifted as part of the 2015 nuclear deal.

Ben Wallace, the current Home Office security minister, said in 2014 before he took the role that the UK government’s handling of the case was “un-British, double-dealing and obfuscatory”.

The Foreign Office said settling the Chieftains dispute was always one of the aims of Johnson’s visit, and could not be described as the price for gaining the release of Zaghari-Ratcliffe. "

Stupid bloody government!

Primrose65 Fri 17-Nov-17 14:18:31

Which government .... Wilson or Callaghan? Perhaps criticism of what happened in 1970's and how the Iranian theocratic revolution was handled has probably passed its sell-by date. Or the 2002 & 2009 challenge? (Blair & Brown)
At least it seems this might be sorted out now which may help diplomatic efforts to release all the dual nationals held.

Jalima1108 Fri 17-Nov-17 14:19:33

How about us using the earthquake as a bargaining chip.

BORIS' £450M CHEQUE Britain preparing to pay a long standing £450m debt to Iran that will help free Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Personally, I think that paying a long-standing debt at a very convenient time is much better than using the suffering of Iranians caught up in an earthquake as a bargaining chip.

I didn't respond to that suggestion above before because it made me feel extremely uncomfortable.

durhamjen Fri 17-Nov-17 14:27:59

It was supposed to, Jalima.
And the stupid bloody government is this one, which has said that the two things have nothing to do with each other.
In that case, Iran can just keep Nazanin, can't they?
Three US hostages were freed last year because the US paid what Iran said they were owed.

JessM Fri 17-Nov-17 19:15:02

Surely to God this idiotic man has made a few blunders too many to ever become PM? And told too many lies?
I'm slightly surprised that nobody yet has accused him of any impropriety, given what Amber Rudd said about him.
And the fact that he appears to be a man with very poor impulse control.

MaizieD Fri 24-Nov-17 09:31:21

Here's the consequence of Boris's little gaffe regarding Nazanin Zagahri-Ratcliffe; she is to go on trial next month on charges of creating propaganda

twitter.com/AndrewzCooper/status/933989219520917504

(sorry it's a link to twitter ATM , I haven't time to look further)

eazybee Fri 24-Nov-17 12:58:00

A Persian (how she describes herself) acquaintance has an adult son ,dual nationality, who works as a journalist; his Persian grandmother advised him five years ago not to visit Iran again because it would be too dangerous for him, and he would risk arrest. He has not been back since.

I am genuinely amazed that Nazanin Zagahri-Ratcliffe took the huge risk of visiting her parents and exposing herself and her baby to such danger. As a journalist she would know the prejudice against journalists in Iran.

MaizieD Fri 24-Nov-17 13:30:31

I think that, regardless of the (understandable) risk she took, Johnson should not have so carelessly made it worse by saying what he did. The FO would be well aware of the risk and would surely have briefed him against mentioning anything to do with journalism in connection with her.

I hope, eazybee, that you're not implying that she has only herself to blame by taking her child to visit its grandparents.

durhamjen Fri 24-Nov-17 16:38:36

Eazybee, she is NOT a journalist. YOU have madfe the same mistake as Boris.

Elrel Fri 24-Nov-17 20:53:50

He should read his briefs and think before speaking. He is at least one definition of incontinent.
It is to be hoped that Nazanin gets released before her increasing ill health makes this farce a tragedy.

M0nica Fri 24-Nov-17 21:17:32

Did you read in the leaked Brexit briefing papers prepared by Irish embassies that not only was Britain's performance described as chaotic and incoherent by senior EU figures
but the document also contained scathing assessments of key Cabinet members like Brexit Secretary David Davis and the “unimpressive” Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson.

As this thread says, when on earth is Mrs May going to sack this apology of a Foreign Secretary who does nothing but embarrass and do damage to this country every time he opens his mouth.