is this acceptable from YOUR elected MP's?

No I don't find it acceptable paddyann then again I don't find your posts regarding the English acceptable either. Are you not familiar with 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.

That certainly doesn't sound acceptable, paddyann. Can you give an actual quote and what provoked such a remark, please, as I haven't seen this.

Oh paddy let me guess this is yet another one of your “the English are all evil” rants . You do like to throw stones at the English don’t you?

I would like to see the debate in full before I make judgement. Not just one line taken out of context mind you.

Not sure what the capitals in the title signify? The Tory party doesn’t even have a working majority, how are they ‘our’ MPs? . Not mine.
I can easily imagine -alas - similar angry language being let pass if the other way round.
Filibustering a motion out of time is bad. Can well understand fury there.

The MP in question was Scottish born representing an English constituency.
Still unacceptable.

Found this in The National : "SNP justice spokeswoman Joanna Cherry later alleged: "When [Blackford] was asking you what options were open to Scottish parliamentarians to raise their concern about what has just occurred, [Liddell-Grainger] shouted 'suicide'. Is that in order?"

Bercow said he did not hear the remark, adding: "I would judge that, frankly, to be distasteful. Is it disorderly? I think it's almost certainly not disorderly."

Not hearing something is not the same as choosing to ignore. It seems Bercow accepts the shout was distasteful but not "disorderly". I guess he knows parliamentary protocol on what counts as disorderly better than we do.

Or it's a neat way to stay out of an argument. I didn't hear/see is an old cop out. Isn't the speaker supposed to hear? And also to respond to one MPs complaint about another MP?

Distasteful yes, anything else, no.
All sorts gets said ( shouted/muttered/whispered) in Parliament.

It cannot be possible to hear every word said in the house, when asked Bercow passed judgement on it, distateful but not disorderly , sorted.

Devolved powers are coming back to Parliament during the
negotiations on Brexit. The EU will only negotiate with the Government for the whole of the UK.

Once we have left, those devolved powers temporarily held plus others, will go back to Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland, with any amendments that the process of Brexit will necessitate. Wales and Norther Ireland I believe have agreed to this, not that agreement is needed, but I believe there will be some legality involved. The SNP has not, after many many weeks of discussion on this accepted that this will have to happen and have it in writing.

Today there was a stunt as it is being regarded by most Politicians in Parliament, carried out by the SNP under the argument that they were not given enough time to debate the amendments from the Lords pertaining to devolution, last night. It was pointed out by a number of MP's who witnessed the "stunt" in Parliament today, including a well put view of this by Kate Hoey, who said that there were 14 amendments given short introduction and time to make comments, the length of time to do that plus the voting procedure for all of these was short of necessity. She also made the point that this is a Bill returning from the Lords, with amendments and the Bill itself was debated over two days for twelve hours making a total of 24 hours of debate, during which the SNP had their say in that long debate, before the Bill went to the upper house.

Did he mean 'go and commit suicide' or did he mean the options would be suicide?

There is a difference.

For goodness sake The word “commit” was not said !

Talk about twisting facts !

But the Somerset MP says he actually said 'political suicide'.

So - if Bercow didn't hear it, and he was there in the House, how do we know what is in fact true?

He claims he said 'it would be political suicide'
As no-one seemed to have really heard it what Bercow did was correct.

paddyann do you consider that this Scottish born MP is a turncoat for representing an English constituency? Is that what’s so upsetting for you?

To remark that it would be political suicide makes much more sense than saying commit suicide. Why would he say that? Is there a recording to verify which it was?

Filibustering is a well used method in Parliament. Not a good one, but well used. On all sides. By all parties. Including the SNP. MPs are used to it.

The behaviour of the SNP MP’s yesterday was a disgrace , what an act.

Not having enough time has always been used as an excuse to lose controversial legislation, including Bills that would have given women the vote much earlier.
If you are voted in on the basis of devolved power are you entitled to hand over that power when you are asked (or forced) to do so? Or is it your duty to protest as much as you are able? I would think the latter.

The 'suicide' furore is indeed a storm in a teacup, a red herring. The MSM has latched on to it in preference to addressing the real issue, which is that the Scottish Parliament, (with support from Labour, Liberal, Green and SNP MSPs) democratically, after much debate, voted NOT to agree to the passing of the Brexit Bill. This was principally because the SP could not agree to returning powers from the EU, being held by Westminster for up to 7 years, during which time Westminster would have full powers over normally devolved matters, such as farming, fracking, fisheries, NHS Scotland and many more.

During these 7 years, the UK government will , post Brexit, be entering into trade deals with non EU Countries, the biggest of whom being the USA. With the UK Gov, holding all the powers they will be able to agree to deals such as allowing American Companies to buy into the NHS (Currently NO privatisation in Scotland) introduce GM crops (currently banned in Scotland), allow Nuclear Dumping (currently not permitted in Scotland) and sanction Fracking by the big oil companies, which after much debate, petitions and protests is currently not permitted in Scotland.

This is the 'power grab' which is referred to by the SP. It is to this section of the Brexit Bill (re the holding of 'should be devolved' powers at Westminster that the SG refused to give its consent. This is the section that was 'debated' at Westminster on Tuesday, when the Minister, talked for the whole of the allotted time, with the speaker allowing no interventions, refusing to take the Labour amendment, which called for the transition period to be limited to 5 rather than 7 years. Thus no MP representing a Scottish Constituency was heard at all.

This now means that many previously devolved powers will be wielded by Westminster for up to 7 years (or more if they decide to extend it] with the SP unable to overrule any decisions or protect the existing Scottish Laws designed to protect our Country. As we have seen, even if all Scottish MPs at Westminster try to object, they can easily be out voted, shouted down, ejected, talked out.

The hard won devolution Settlement is now in tatters and all the benefits (environmental, educational, health wise,) that the SP has provided are under threat. It will in effect signal a form of Direct Rule and leave the Scottish Parliament as impotent as Scotland's MPs in the HoC.

Suicide? it has crossed my mind since Tuesday, but even self immolation on the floor of the Commons would be deemed a 'stunt' and a source of much hilarity from the, so called, Impartial speaker.

Great post Granny23

Thanks Trisher you are one of the few who 'get it'

The 'suicide' furore is indeed a storm in a teacup, a red herring.
Yes, it is

Granny23 thank you for a post which is factual, informative and sensible without the hysteria evident in some quarters, including the H of C.

It seems to me to be a basic requirement of democracy that MPs should be allowed to speak about something so important. If power can be withdrawn from a group of MPs in such a manner what is to stop any future government using this as a precedent to withdraw devolved powers when it conflicts with their policies.
And am I alone in finding it strange (or perhaps not so strange) that legislation about abortion in N Ireland is considered their business but Scotland and Brexit is non of Scotland's business?

You didn’t seem to think it was “a storm in a tea cup” or “a red herring” yesterday on the England No way thread, though granny23 unless I am mistaken you seemed to take it quite seriously.

Happy to be corrected.