Gransnet forums

News & politics

Victoria Roberts

(86 Posts)
mrsmopp Tue 03-Dec-19 11:11:26

Watched the programmer about Victoria’s side of her story.
She has been very brave giving her version of events and very plausible. She came across more convincing than PA.
Where will it all end?

BBbevan Tue 03-Dec-19 11:17:40

In tears probably. But whose?

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 12:09:19

I still don’t understand why anyone would keep a photograph
of a man who had sexually abused you.

Smileless2012 Tue 03-Dec-19 12:21:06

No I don't understand that either Annie

EllanVannin Tue 03-Dec-19 12:33:00

A good bit of acting I'd say. Americans are famed for it. I cant say that I believe her somehow.

No way am I supporting PA in this because I've always thought him an obnoxious individual and it's exactly his type who think they can get away with everything, more so because of his position.

Even by his association with the monster knowing what he stood for is a crime in itself using underage girls in his sleazy trade.

merlotgran Tue 03-Dec-19 12:36:29

Could you please get her name right?

It's Virginia Giuffre, formerly Roberts.

vena11 Tue 03-Dec-19 12:54:56

I believe this interview was filmed a few weeks ago , I am not saying that I believe any of them, bit this e.mail that they have discovered from PA, if he was so friendly with Maxwell why do it say From The Duke of York on the top.

vena11 Tue 03-Dec-19 12:55:32

And Not Andrew or Andy

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 13:11:12

Surely they have enough evidence to sue Epstein’s estate now,
all those girls would give evidence for the 5 women to sue.

merlotgran Tue 03-Dec-19 13:12:06

Because Duke of York is his title so it will appear at the top of all his e-mails.

And because he's a pompous a**e who likes everyone to know who he is!

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 13:18:52

Would close friends want to know who he is ?

eazybee Tue 03-Dec-19 13:29:55

'Date on the back of the photo is 13 March 2001.
Freelance photographer Michael Thomas first copied the picture in 2011.
He is convinced the picture is genuine because he found it in the middle of a bundle of photos that Ms Giuffre handed him from her travels with Epstein and Ms Maxwell.
She sold it for $160,000 to him, apparently'.
From BBC news report.
Probably both lying; what a seedy couple.

merlotgran Tue 03-Dec-19 13:31:49

Do we know who actually took the photo?

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 13:45:18

She said Epstein took the photograph with her camera

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 13:46:52

She kept a photograph of a man who allegedly sexually abused her for 10 years !

Sparklefizz Tue 03-Dec-19 14:04:51

It doesn't add up re the photograph as Annie says ..... and yet she seemed extremely plausible, and if she was acting, well then give that woman a bunch of Oscars.

vena11 Tue 03-Dec-19 14:04:51

No Anniebach they would not and he would have had a personal e.mail for close friends

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 14:32:16

I thought the same venall , surely if William is on an official tour and wants to contact his wife and children it wouldn’t be
an email from The Duke of Cambridge

Chestnut Tue 03-Dec-19 15:20:16

To get to the facts I think they need to keep searching for evidence. It's no good hearing 'he said' and 'she said' because as we know people lie. I'm sure more evidence will surface eventually, because there must be some kind of paper trail (or electronic evidence) on where PA was at any given time.

sodapop Tue 03-Dec-19 15:45:54

What was meant by that comment EllanVannin Acting - Americans are famed for it
Another sweeping and untrue generalisation.

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 15:50:24

I have photographs from the 60’s, 70’s , 80’s, 90’s to 2017, no number on the back of one.

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 16:07:57

What does she mean by ‘i’m Calling BS on this ?

merlotgran Tue 03-Dec-19 16:25:53

BS = Bullshit.

Anniebach Tue 03-Dec-19 16:27:33

Oh, thanks merlot , thought it was some legal term blush

merlotgran Tue 03-Dec-19 16:29:50

grin