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Anyone else think Boris is still ill?

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Sparklefizz Thu 09-Jul-20 09:47:08

Many people who have suffered Covid-19 badly are going on to suffer ME/CFS. I am an ME sufferer myself, and mine developed from a nasty virus 30 years ago. My husband and I both caught it - he got better and I never did.

Anyway ..... looking at Boris slumped next to Rishi Sunak yesterday - well, I thought Boris looked shattered, haggard and unwell, whereas Rishi looked full of vigour. Boris has returned to work because he has had to, but it's my opinion he is still far from well.

Anyone agree (whether you approve of him or not?)

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 09:49:38

I showed my DH a photo of Johnson yesterday, and asked DH “who is this”

His reply “Stanley Johnson”

Johnson has aged terribly. C19 is a bugger of a disease.

Toadinthehole Thu 09-Jul-20 09:57:56

Yes, I was thinking that. He looks sweaty and pale. Most viruses can take a while can’t they? and like you OP, my daughter developed ME after one. Who knows with this one? We’d expect government officials to be shattered quite honestly, but Boris seems to be on the next level. Of course, it could just be the new baby keeping him up!!

Teetime Thu 09-Jul-20 10:05:39

I think its quite likely that the effects of Covid-19 are still being felt as well as punishing working hours and pressure. Lets hope he does get some R & R.

Lucca Thu 09-Jul-20 10:08:42

Begs the question should he have handed over the reins to someone else even if temporarily ?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 10:14:09

Lucca

Begs the question should he have handed over the reins to someone else even if temporarily ?

I think Cummings is fitting that bill

Lucca Thu 09-Jul-20 10:34:03

Yes as soon as I wrote that it occurred to me !,

Sparklefizz Thu 09-Jul-20 10:34:10

I also notice that he sounds a bit breathless when he speaks, and speaks in gasps without one unbroken sentence coming out.

Sorry to hear that your daughter has M.E. Toadinthehole.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 10:39:02

Toadinthehole

Yes, I was thinking that. He looks sweaty and pale. Most viruses can take a while can’t they? and like you OP, my daughter developed ME after one. Who knows with this one? We’d expect government officials to be shattered quite honestly, but Boris seems to be on the next level. Of course, it could just be the new baby keeping him up!!

toad one thing that might possibly come out of this is that the scientists are beginning to understand the part genetic makeup is playing in C19. I think that such debilitating diseases (?) as ME will fall under that as well. Be brilliant if they could find a reason and potential cure.

EllanVannin Thu 09-Jul-20 10:47:40

It'll be a while before he's fully fit. His weight is evidently against him and he was also hospitalized too. The illness knocks you sideways and my own observations told me that he'd returned to work too soon after.
He probably pretended that the disease wasn't as bad as he thought, but it tells on him right now.

Tangerine Thu 09-Jul-20 10:50:41

He looks unwell to me. Apart from having hadCovid, he must be living with immense strain.

Sparklefizz Thu 09-Jul-20 10:51:44

The scientists are discovering predisposing factors with C-19 as time goes on, as there are with any illness - diabetes, heart disease etc.

In my case of M.E., my predisposing factors were a huge amount of longterm stress ongoing for 10 years (husband an alcoholic, then very messy divorce), I was very run down, caught a lot of infections and had loads of antibiotics. Then 3 house moves in 3 years, caught a nasty virus and wham !!! Was bedridden for 2 years until someone in the local M.E. Link Group recommended a naturopath, and from then on it's been alternative therapies all the way.

Elderflower2 Thu 09-Jul-20 10:56:10

Boris has always looked unwell to me, pale and clammy.

EllanVannin Thu 09-Jul-20 10:58:15

Boris is unfit--he's too heavy, fat.

EllanVannin Thu 09-Jul-20 10:59:29

You don't see him cycling around now so he's probably not up to it.

FarNorth Thu 09-Jul-20 11:03:29

It's completely ridiculous that he's pretending all is fine, if he's still ill.

And even more ridiculous if the UK is being run by a backroom jerk whom nobody elected, while Johnson makes himself more ill by appearing in public talking rubbish.

glammanana Thu 09-Jul-20 11:06:51

I was expecting to find BJ had fallen asleep yesterday when sitting near RS he looked rather poorly to say the least.

ExD Thu 09-Jul-20 11:12:49

I've thought the same for some time too - also the P of Wales looks fragile. But Boris has lost his bounce and I think its wrecked his career, and you have to feel sorry for him poor man, whatever your personal political views. He looks worn out.

Katek Thu 09-Jul-20 11:26:51

It’s having a new baby in your 50’s!

maddyone Thu 09-Jul-20 11:34:07

I think he doesn’t look particularly well. Obviously he’s over the acute stage, but this virus affects some people badly for a long time after apparent recovery. He’s male, overweight, no longer fit ( he used to run and cycle some years ago) and he has a new baby as well, so possibly disturbed nights. Does he have any underlying conditions? We don’t know obviously as that is private information, although we did know Theresa May had diabetes type 1.
Despite all this, I hope he manages to get a relaxing holiday this summer. Maybe a couple of weeks at Chequers would be a good prescription for him. I’m not sure that a holiday abroad with all the attendant stresses would be particularly good for him.
I hope he looks a bit better by the Autumn.

Chewbacca Thu 09-Jul-20 11:36:39

Whitewavemark2

I showed my DH a photo of Johnson yesterday, and asked DH “who is this”

His reply “Stanley Johnson”

Johnson has aged terribly. C19 is a bugger of a disease.

Completely agree. He looks very unwell still.

Calendargirl Thu 09-Jul-20 11:39:45

He has lost weight, although still too heavy I suppose.

I thought the way he kept moving his leg while Rishi spoke looked strange, Whether it was nerves I don’t know.

I’m sure he is still not well, although it has been suggested on GN before now that he’s been faking it all along.

Ridiculous and unkind.

PernillaVanilla Thu 09-Jul-20 11:39:46

He doesn't seem to have lost any weight and looks very poorly.

varian Thu 09-Jul-20 11:45:39

I don't think that he lied about being ill. It is one of the very few true things he's ever said.

maddyone Thu 09-Jul-20 11:48:36

No one can fake being in hospital on oxygen. I saw footage of him in the hospital, and hospital staff would not allow things to be faked in that way in the middle of a pandemic. He was ill, he’s over the acute stage, but he doesn’t look or sound fully well yet. I hope he makes a full recovery, along with the same hope for anyone else who’s finding it difficult to completely recover after suffering this virus.