Yesterday in Boris World - NHS nurse who cared for PM resigns, Dominic Cummings attacks (again) and Tory Council Leader revolts.

I don't think you'll get much interest, Pippa. I started a thread which included this yesterday.

Zilch...

Not so much clap for carers but crap for carers it seems. Not good.

Probably including me Maizie. I'm sorry I didn't see it.

I think those blind eyes will continue to be turned for some time.

Covid has really changed the dynamics in the care sector too especially for people with learning disabilities, something which doesn't seem to be being discussed. The coronavirus act has put disabled peoples human rights back by about 3 decades. It was supposed to be temporary and was pushed through despite opposition, when will it be lifted?

I watched newsnight last night, there was discussion around whether there should even be a green list wrt leisure travel.

I don't blame the nurse btw

What does everyone expect of Boris ?

What sort of a reception would he have got if he'd " sealed " the country off for a year ? Nobody in, nobody out. Full restrictions.

Look at the protests there have been for anti-lockdowns.
Protests about anti-vaccines and anti-coronavirus.

It would seem there's no pleasing everyone.

You forgot to add that in Boris world the £840 per roll wallpaper is falling off.

'Specialist decorators' have been called in!

I'm so glad the nurse refused the photo op. They sometimes seem to be used like Sadaam's human shields.

Do hope it's true about the wallpaper Riverwalk

I think the pay rise of 1% to nursing staff was an insult
and before I am shouted at about pay increases for police
and fire services then just shout. The N.H.S worked tirelessly
(they still are) and had to wear uncomfortable clothing masks and face shields all day and everyday and they done it without complaint and what did they get? Let's clap for the N.H.S. Clapping doesn't put food on the table it doesn't repair your car when a big bill comes in and it doesn't make you feel appreciated for what you are doing.

I am sick of this pandemic all this Covid everybody with councils closed offices shut and seemingly everything standing still. I had a neighbour die in January this year and almost 5 months later accumalated rubbish is still sitting in front of his house plus his car.
He lived alone and his son used to pop in and out and he left all the stuff outside and has never been back and the place is a disgusting eyesore. I have been on to housing the council and even my M.P. and still nothing has been done and it p****s me off. So while Bloody Boris sets about refurbishing his flat and paying £840 per roll for wallpaper and heaven knows how much for curtains some of us get nothing done in our area by any of the services that we pay our council tax for. We might have Covid but surely life goes on but not where I live it is like the back of beyond and getting worse.
All the country is interested in is about being allowed to go on holiday or arguing about the Royal Family and Harry at least they have castles and lovely environments to look out on. All this new stuff they are saying about plant a tree for the planet I would like to plant a few but not into the ground
they need planting elsewhere and I am too polite to say.

EllanVannin

What does everyone expect of Boris ?

What sort of a reception would he have got if he'd " sealed " the country off for a year ? Nobody in, nobody out. Full restrictions.

Look at the protests there have been for anti-lockdowns.
Protests about anti-vaccines and anti-coronavirus.

It would seem there's no pleasing everyone.

I would expect him to act knowledgeably and decisively and honestly.

(And no I don’t know what. Robyn would have done as it’s irrelevant.)

EllanVannin

What does everyone expect of Boris ?

What sort of a reception would he have got if he'd " sealed " the country off for a year ? Nobody in, nobody out. Full restrictions.

Look at the protests there have been for anti-lockdowns.
Protests about anti-vaccines and anti-coronavirus.

It would seem there's no pleasing everyone.

The world doesn't just exist in black and white.

What do I expect from my PM? Genuine leadership, honesty and rational decision making, for a start.

3nanny6, I completely agree with you. I have things going on in my personal life wrt my LA not doing it's job properly combined with a care provider who appears to blame covid for absolutely everything atm. Add on top two useless MPs. It is all a bit tiresome. There is honestly no excuse for half the incompetence. Luckily we have a independent town councillor who has really worked on our behalf and has pushed for things to be done but it's took MONTHS of frustration and letter writing and phonecalls. I actually think it is negligence.

I'm sorry I'm being so vague but I can't really post about the actual issue

So my advice would be, have a look and see if you have any local councillors who may be able to help and email them all about it. They seem to get things moving quicker than MPs (especially ours who is on every bloody tv show going)

If you were the PM and got struck down with covid and nursed for two days in intensive care, got better recovered. Wouldnt you make sure nurses got a decent pay rise, a thank you for all their hard work in coping magnificently with this pandemic (especially without proper PPE)?

It makes you wonder what sort of person he is, the PM whos life was saved wouldn't give nurses the pay rise they deserve and is considerably long overdue

Spot on Grany.

MaizieD

I don't think you'll get much interest, Pippa. I started a thread which included this yesterday.

Zilch...

Yes. I mentioned it somewhere as well. I was expecting someone to say that it didn’t matter as she was planning to go back to New Zealand etc. She will be on a Ch4 programme about the the way the government have handled the pandemic. It will be interesting to hear what she says.

The nodding dogs will agree with everything the government does no matter what will find some way of defending them . There are even those who supported Scummings and Trump. I think Johnson said he could never thank the NHS enough - well he is the one person in a position to thank them properly and he’s just ignored it. When nurses’ pay was discussed before I remember someone saying at least they had a job and we should be sorry for those on furlough sitting at home on 80% of salary! No I didn’t make that one up.

I've just read an article in the English language paper the Connexion. It names the PM as Boriscovi Johnson. Probably an error but rather good I thought.

You’ve said it exactly as it is, Pippa.
But good old Boris. Manages the media to perfection. I am so fed up of the daily image of him swanning round the country in a hard hat or white coat or cuddling a baby lamb. How cynical of me! But I hope folk noticed the failure to appear in a pub pulling pints, or any of his Cabinet appearing in waiters’ aprons serving lunches. Could it be that laughing boy is actually concerned that opening up might go wrong again?
No way...he’ll wriggle out of responsibility.

nanna8

Not so much clap for carers but crap for carers it seems. Not good.

Yes, I agree nanna8, it's a kick in the teeth.

However, I am not interested in any of Dominic Cummings's pronouncements and I'm surprised that anyone is.
Not so long ago he was vilified for being the one who was running the country, a control freak according to threads on here and Boris Johnson was just his puppet, now every word that comes out of his mouth is revered as the true gospel.

Cummings was pulling the strings for a long time, he must be privy to a lot of secrets, people are interested in what he’s going to reveal.

It would be convenient, wouldn't it, if we all just ignored what Cummings said because we all think he's a d***. I can't think of a nice word but if I post what I think I'll get deleted.

He may be a manipulative, lying git, and I certainly don't think every word that comes out of his mouth is gospel. But it would be a dereliction of duty if he says something at a Commons Committee that incriminates the PM and then the Committee just ignores it because they don't believe him.

He knows where the bodies are buried. I hope he's in a sharing mood.

Strange that some of the very people saying we should ignore what Cummings says because he’s a liar were happy to believe the lies he spun during the referendum campaign and vote accordingly.

He knows where the bodies are buried. I hope he's in a sharing mood.

Of course he knows. He's been associating with Johnson for the last 5 years. We all surmised that that was why he was allowed his Rose Garden moment to spin a load of lies* to journalists.

He was at the very heart of government. He had no reason to tell what he 'knew' until Johnson was faced with the choice of losing him or his girlfriend. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" may have influenced BJ's thinking at the time, but a Cummings scorned is probably close behind.

Yes, he's now trying to rewrite history to make himself look good in his tweet series, but he's not going to be bothered about making Johnson look good; and Johnson not only sacked him, but then accused him of leaking... Mr Johnson isn't a terribly canny operator...

*definitely lies...

P.S. No, we didn't all 'surmise'. There were actually people on here who seemed to believe him and even defended him...

MayBee70

Strange that some of the very people saying we should ignore what Cummings says because he’s a liar were happy to believe the lies he spun during the referendum campaign and vote accordingly.

Oh, but they were 'Good Lies', MayBee and they must be true because Leavers keep on repeating them..