Eddie Izzard not chosen to be Labour candidate for Sheffield Central.

BlueBelle, your last sentence @10:02 🤣🤣🤣.
No pain, no gain.

BlueBelle

Eddie izzard is a man Glorianna
I support anyone who has genuinely changed as it takes a lot of guts pain and time Eddie Izzard is a cross dresser who likes to flit from male to female…. at the moment he’s in the female camp give it time and he ll be back in the male camp
I admire anyone who does tireless work for charity or a cause but I do not admire his nauseating cry that he’s a woman….
when he gets his bits chopped off I ll support him and then and only then can he use the ladies toilet

Completely agree. EI doesn’t know if it’s New York or New Year. I can’t take him seriously.

Do what you like Ed I don’t give a toss, but as your a man don’t Invade Women's spaces.

Glorianny

Eddie Izzard has a track record of activism and support for the Labour Party. Hopefully she will continue to support and campaign for them. What some of the comments on this thread reveal is how biased some people are and how they can ignore not only a successful comedy and acting career but a life of activism and fundraising simply because they don't like someone's choice of gender.

Why are you calling him she? He's a man who cross dresses and has never claimed to be female. We need to stop this nonsense.

Glorianny

Eddie Izzard has a track record of activism and support for the Labour Party. Hopefully she will continue to support and campaign for them. What some of the comments on this thread reveal is how biased some people are and how they can ignore not only a successful comedy and acting career but a life of activism and fundraising simply because they don't like someone's choice of gender.

Eddie Izzard hasn't chosen a gender his choice changes like the wind depending on what he's doing. It's on a video interview that he slips between modes at will, for example he's 'girl mode' for political campaigning, and 'boy mode' for acting parts. Asked how he changes between 'girl' and 'boy' modes he replied he takes off heels and puts on flats for a start. And I'm supposed to take him seriously?

Acting and comedy are totally irrelevant to the role of an MP. An ability to be grounded in reality is very relevant. The best candidate won, the people of Sheffield will have a proven hardworking MP at the next election.

I think his switching between 'modes' does a great disservice to transpeople. It must be very difficult for someone trying to convince others that they genuinely 'feel like' someone of the opposite sex, that they were 'born in the wrong body', hate being 'misgendered' and so on, when one of the most famous representative of trans issues cheerfully says that he changes his mind all the time, and doesn't mind which pronoun is used.

It's not hard to believe that EI is only interested in what is best for himself.

His switching between 'modes' is an insult to genuine trans people Doodledog.

What some of the comments on this thread reveal is how biased some people are and how they can ignore not only a successful comedy and acting career but a life of activism and fundraising simply because they don't like someone's choice of gender.

No Glorianny, people are not biased because they disagree with you; they dislike the persona he presents and do not consider him suitable to be considered as a possible MP.

someone's choice of gender.


Someone's dishonesty about what sex they are, you mean.

Excellent news. We have more than enough politicians who are confused about what they're there to do without parachuting in EI.

Smileless2012

His switching between 'modes' is an insult to genuine trans people Doodledog.

Very true.

We have more than enough politicians who are confused about what they're there to do
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I'm laughing but it's not funny, is it!!

I believe Eddie doesn't mind what pronoun you use. I do think that castigating someone who has done a lot of good for one thing you find disagreeable about them, which actually only really affects them personally, a bit strange.
For example I would say Tony Blair did far more harm as PM and his major crime resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and left the Middle East much worse off. But I have often been told that I should recognise the good his government did. So it seems a major war crime is acceptable but.changing gender isn't.
People never cease to amaze me.

What I object to is candidates pushing aside local people who have been doing the groundwork for years but are disliked by the executive because they are a tiny bit too left wing.

Has he changed gender ?

Glorianny
People never cease to amaze 🤣🤣🤣

And aa ever, you never cease to amaze me.

Your comparison

So it seems a major war crime is acceptable but changing gender isn't.

is ludicrous (though typical of your convoluted thought processes).

Has anyone on here said they approved or accepted major war crimes? Can you evidence your statement?
And once again before anyone jumps in to rattle on about me being anti-trans, IE is a male who cross-dresses. He is another of those males out to damage the lives of the majority of trans, by his behaviour, like that of TRA and some TW, focusses attention on that wrong behaviour rather than the non confrontational desire of most trans. On top of that he is disrespectful of females and he doesn’t care about that!

for one thing you find disagreeable about them well if the one thing was his 'gender fluidity' the issue I have with that is that he's constantly 'changing' his identity; a man one day and a 'woman' the next, and what constitutes this 'change' is based on the clothes he wears.

There's more than one though isn't there. An intact male accessing female safe spaces is another.

I believe Eddie doesn't mind what pronoun you use.
He doesn't. So knowing that, why are you making a point by calling him 'she'?

Visiting the Ladies with minders to make sure that women wanting to use them could be warned off, and shouting at teenage girls in a different Ladies' loo is not 'only affecting him personally'. This is another example of how you only see things from the male/trans perspective and disregard the feelings of women.

Doodledog

*I believe Eddie doesn't mind what pronoun you use.*
He doesn't. So knowing that, why are you making a point by calling him 'she'?

Visiting the Ladies with minders to make sure that women wanting to use them could be warned off, and shouting at teenage girls in a different Ladies' loo is not 'only affecting him personally'. This is another example of how you only see things from the male/trans perspective and disregard the feelings of women.

I have no doubt that some women will be disturbed by Eddie using the women's toilets Doodledog but equally a number won't. So are you saying that those who take offence at something should be prioritised over those who don't ? If so where should we draw the line? Very right wing Christian evangelists don't approve of abortion, should I modify my views to take into consideration their views? Or is this something which only needs to apply when the views match yours? Many women recognise trans identities, some don't what makes one more acceptable than the other?

Many women recognise trans identities but this isn't an example of trans identity is it. It's an example of a man deciding on a daily basis whether he's going to be a man or a 'woman'.

He's well known and easily recognised as an intact male, do you really think that any woman would be OK with an intact male using women's toilets and accessing them with minders?

Glorianny

I believe Eddie doesn't mind what pronoun you use. I do think that castigating someone who has done a lot of good for one thing you find disagreeable about them, which actually only really affects them personally, a bit strange.
For example I would say Tony Blair did far more harm as PM and his major crime resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and left the Middle East much worse off. But I have often been told that I should recognise the good his government did. So it seems a major war crime is acceptable but.changing gender isn't.
People never cease to amaze me.

Glorianny so you find nothing at all off putting about Eddie saying that to slip from 'girl mode' to 'boy mode' he starts by taking off heels and putting on flats? The stereotypical attitude that women wear high heels and men wear flats is so outdated and performative. I can't take seriously anyone who thinks they can change their gender by changing their clothing.

I have never ever said a major war crime is acceptable, and I don't recall any other poster saying so either. Perhaps you could identify the culprits?

People who think wearing a dress or high heels turns you into a woman amaze me. Do they also think the earth is flat and climate change is a myth?

The bottom line is those eligible to vote for the candidate they wanted to stand for Labour at the next election decided very heavily in favour of Abtisam Mohamed. That she won handsomely on the first ballot is a massive endorsement, 433 votes to Eddie's 175. Are you going to criticise them for rejecting him?

Smileless2012

^Many women recognise trans identities^ but this isn't an example of trans identity is it. It's an example of a man deciding on a daily basis whether he's going to be a man or a 'woman'.

He's well known and easily recognised as an intact male, do you really think that any woman would be OK with an intact male using women's toilets and accessing them with minders?

But I thought that trans people were supported Smileless2012 ? The number of people having genital surgery is very small. Most transwomen retain their original genitalia, for a number of reasons. Are we now to examine transwomen to assertain what treatment they have had?

^ have no doubt that some women will be disturbed by Eddie using the women's toilets Doodledog but equally a number won't.^

In the context of women's equality this is like saying 'some women want the vote but equally a number don't.'

I'm afraid that 'those who don't' look as though they're siding with their oppressors...

I'm not joining in this sorry debate; I know what I think and feel and I have no wish to share it. I just thought that rewording that statement to a different fight for women's rights was interesting...

Trans people are supported Glorianny but EI isn't a trans woman who has elected not to have surgery and remain in tact, he's a man who when it suits him, wears clothes associated with women and accesses their safe spaces.

Some women will be disturbed……is one too many!
No woman should ever feel disturbed in the presence of any male. He is male, he can use the gents toilets where he can experience what feeling disturbed is like or in your view, is it only women who should be made to feel uncomfortable in having to allow men to feel comfortable at their expense?