Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

I doubt she will

LOUISA she told you did she ? blimey you got a crystal ball

I doubt it too. If you care about someone you wouldn't treat them the way he's been treated and you're only concerned about someone's health and welfare, if you care about them.

She may visit.

If she has fully estranged him (i dont know) one of the things considered is illness and death. While walking away from a relationship you might think that relationship has ended whatever the circumstances but often in illness and death estrangement is broken to offer care for a parent. This may come with a level of contact you are comfortable with or without having actual contact but making financial and care arrangements for them instead.

I see it often.

I do not think it is wrong to be unable or unwilling to be there for a parent in that situation though. Just as it isnt wrong not to be there for someone in any other ended relationship

Nobody can possibly know the history of Megan and her dad the press have really gone to town on their relationship and an awful lot of people have soaked it up, word for word.

Whatever their situation as father and daughter, I hope Mr Markle makes a very good recovery, if he is as bad as the press have exclaimed!

I don’t recall reading anything that said Thomas Markle was bad. Nothing. He supported and was there for her her whole life. She objected to something he had done/not done. What about the lifetime he loved and supported her, the things she wrote about him whilst young, all complimentary. I doubt she will go to him, after all there’s only on member of the whole family she speaks to, her mother. So everyone else is wrong are they? I feel sorry for Thomas he loves her so much, regardless of how she turned out. No a daughter to be proud of, but he is. All this strain on top of his heart problems has got to have put immeasurable pressure on him. He’s never met his grandchildren, how spiteful. I wish him well and peace, because he has had little.

Nobody at all knows what lead to the situation as it is between Meghan and her father.
For those who are estranged, would you expect your child to rush to your bedside if you were ill?

Would you rush to theirs, and expect that all would be forgotten, whether or not you feel you were blame free?

Allsorts

I don’t recall reading anything that said Thomas Markle was bad. Nothing. He supported and was there for her her whole life. She objected to something he had done/not done. What about the lifetime he loved and supported her, the things she wrote about him whilst young, all complimentary. I doubt she will go to him, after all there’s only on member of the whole family she speaks to, her mother. So everyone else is wrong are they? I feel sorry for Thomas he loves her so much, regardless of how she turned out. No a daughter to be proud of, but he is. All this strain on top of his heart problems has got to have put immeasurable pressure on him. He’s never met his grandchildren, how spiteful. I wish him well and peace, because he has had little.

Are you sure you didn’t misread what Serendipity22 said, Allsorts - I think she hoped Mr Markle’s illness was not as bad as reported, not his character?
I don’t think we can possibly know the characters and motivations of either of them, but they should be left to do whatever they want to do without press interference, it’s their business and it’s private.

We don't know the exact details of what happened between MM and her father, who has rattled his sabre publicly whilst she has kept a dignified silence. Whilst I realise that he may have been desperate so felt he kept pushing, it does seem that it his working with the Press was the straw that absolutely broke the camel's back before the wedding so it seems like a very silly thing to do to make further statements through the press.
It would be nice to think that Meghan could let bygones to be bygones but I wouldn't automatically condemn her if she chose not to.

Our ES rushing to my bedside if I was ill would be the last thing I'd want MissA.

The trials and tribulations of H&M are hard to avoid.

However I do know that Meghan made a glowing speech about her father before she met Harry and she opted to live with him for her teenage years so he can't have been all bad.

I also recall Harry having to apologise for saying in an interview that Meghan had loved her first Christmas spent with his family. He said they were the family she never had. Which of course wasn't true.

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1874298/Video-family-never-Harry-Christmas-Meghan.html

And I always wondered why Harry didn't go to meet his future father in law before or after their engagement. It's not as if they couldn't afford it.

I hope they can eventually manage to live the private life they craved.

BlueBelle

LOUISA she told you did she ? blimey you got a crystal ball

what a harsh comment! ...

Louisa clearly said 'she doubts' *NOT she knows

Zoejory, nobody is "all" bad but sometimes people do things that cause a complete breakdown in a relationship. 2 years ago my beautiful sister would have made a similar speech about our father having grown up with him. Nowadays she cannot bear to hear his name and I very much doubt she would be at his bedside if he had a stroke. No doubt some of his friends would criticise her for her stance but they wouldn't know the whole story because it is too hurtful to tell them. Maybe MM is in the same position.

I was referring to Mr Markles health when i said if he is as bad as the press have exclaimed.

Sorry Serendipity, I thought you were saying he was bad person.
Yes Smileless, I agree with your sentiments. It's enough to finish you off. .

Well the Sussexes are coming over for HM the Queen’s Jubilee celebrations next week so it’s highly unlikely Meghan will be seeing her father in the interim days.

Reports say he has no speech and no mobility of his right side. Poor man.

I don’t think she is obligated to see this ghastly man or her paternal side of the family at all.

Her half brother Thomas junior and his friends were smoking weed in the living room while she cried in her bedroom, at Thomas Markles house which is some pretty negligent parenting.

Her half sister’s own children won’t have anything to do with their mother.

Thomas jr and senior are estranged and Thomas jr was Arrested in 2017 for holding a gun to his fiancée’s head.

From reading about her upbringing it sounds like a chaotic childhood due to a dysfunctional family. They are all estranged from each other and I think Meghan is well rid.

(I’m not a fan of MM, but don’t dislike her either. This nonsense about her being a bad daughter I think is none of the public’s business. Her father appears to me a nasty self absorbed type, and given the outcome of his other children I’m doubtful he was a stable parent.)

Just find the timing very convenient what with the royal jubilee next week. Very much a soap opera.

I’m surprised there was nothing about this on the BBC tv news earlier, although of course the dreadful US shooting dominated most of the bulletin.

Surely now with Thomas being so ill, it is time for his daughter to show him some compassion, and forgive him for his past rather foolish behaviour.

She and Harry are constantly lecturing the rest of us about the need to show kindness and compassion to others, so now is the time to extend that to her own flesh and blood.

And I always wondered why Harry didn't go to meet his future father in law before or after their engagement. It's not as if they couldn't afford it.

I always found this interesting as well. Certainly speaks to things not being in good shape prior to the engagement and TMs silly paparazzi moves.

Gish yiu should see my facebook before estrangement. I see it in my memories all the time, lots of glowing posts about my mother.

The truth was being desperate to please, fear, comparisons to other families facebook accounts of days together yhroen at me, literal demands I put a post about an occasion on facebook, a weird determination i had that I could somehow be the daughter she wanted and be loved and i guess stockholm syndrome of some type.

I delete them as they come up in memories. They arent real.

I agree with you Dilly. Even she would forgive him for the stunt before the wedding, has has participated in plenty of other stunts that would not be acceptable. Just last week, his photographer friend, who he owns a Youtube channel with, went to an open house next door to her mother just so he could spy on them. At first he stated that he could hear the children while inside the house, then backtracked and said he didn't. I bet the possibility of hearing Archie and Lili would bring lots of viewers to his channel. And with that comes lots of money.

He has stated that he will bad mouth her publicly until she concedes and sees him. Who does that? Not someone who loves his daughter.

She has no obligation to forgive him until he changes his behavior.

Gosh, I don't think I'm terribly impressed with anyone that I've seen from that group. I do think MM's mother seems a nice lady. If I had to guess, I think MM it's embarrassed by her father and his family, not upper crust enough for her.

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.