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Royal children stripped of titles

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Blossoming Thu 29-Sep-22 13:46:39

No, not in the UK. A story in the Mirror online today.

The Danish Royal Family has announced that four grandchildren of Queen Margrethe will lose their prince and princess titles from January 1, 2023 - and says it is in line with "other royal houses". The move affects the children of the Queen's second son Prince Joachim - Prince Nikolai, 23, Prince Felix, 20, Prince Henrik, 13, and 10-year-old Princess Athena. Instead, they will use titles of count or countess and be referred to as their excellencies from next year.

I love the photo that accompanies the piece, they look such a happy family, smartly but not extravagantly dressed and not a uniform or medal in sight.

Oopsadaisy1 Thu 29-Sep-22 13:48:22

Stripped of one title but immediately given another?

Blossoming Thu 29-Sep-22 13:53:36

The headline is The Mirror’s words *Oopsadaisy’ not mine. smile

Elegran Thu 29-Sep-22 14:40:13

Re uniforms and medals - Our Queen was head of the armed forces, by virtue of being the Head of State. Presumably Charles takes on that rank now. Other members of the Royal Family hold positions as top officers of various regiments. Princess Anne holds the rank of Admiral and is Chief Commandant of Women in the Royal Navy." That is why she as well as others wore uniform for her mother's funeral. (Princess Anne carries out hundreds of engagements with her military patronages and affiliations every year and usually tops the hardest working royal list).

volver Thu 29-Sep-22 14:47:30

I know that these Royal threads disintegrate quickly so I'll get my point in quick...

For many people, me included, the sight of a group of slightly elderly people in Ruritanian costumes when they have mostly only spent, at most, a few weeks in the forces - or haven't served at all - is just an example of how their priorities are different to mine. I know that they are "entitled" to do it but just because something has always been the case, that doesn't mean we shouldn't look at changing it.

I get the head of state being head of the armed services bit, but do the Blues and Royals really need a 70-odd year old colonel in jodhpurs and a Napoleon hat who has never been in the forces?

Blossoming Thu 29-Sep-22 14:51:12

Elegran, yes I know all that. However, I prefer to see people looking natural. My opinion and I’m entitled to it. I had hoped for some reasonable discussion around the more modern, less formal style of the Danish monarchy. I should have known better.

merlotgran Thu 29-Sep-22 14:53:07

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11261605/Queen-Margrethe-Denmark-STRIPS-four-grandchildren-royal-titles.html

Doesn't sound like they're too happy about it.

volver Thu 29-Sep-22 15:35:25

I'm stuck on the fact that the two oldest sons are models!!

If you read the article, it appears to be written by someone whose first language isn't English...One of them is modelling a "short" (shirt?) and he's been "multiplying his modelling gigs". The other one made "Royal swoons". Gotta love the Mail...

Grammaretto Thu 29-Sep-22 15:46:59

If you read the DM this is what you get.
My family is part Danish and I will ask them how they feel about it but I tend towardsVolver's view and Blossoming that it looks incongruous and even embarrassing to see rows of medals and uniforms on our head of state and their siblings and other relations

Blossoming Thu 29-Sep-22 15:54:18

Thank you Grammaretto, that will be interesting. My very first trip abroad in my teens was to Copenhagen. I loved the soldiers outside the palace, they looked like something out of a fairy tale. I wonder if they still have them?

Chestnut Thu 29-Sep-22 15:55:08

Blossoming

*Elegran*, yes I know all that. However, I prefer to see people looking natural. My opinion and I’m entitled to it. I had hoped for some reasonable discussion around the more modern, less formal style of the Danish monarchy. I should have known better.

Hang on there, your post had only been up an hour, bit too soon to give up.

I actually love our RF wearing uniforms and medals on special occasions. They looked so sad and grieving at the funeral, it was heartbreaking to see them, but at the same time they looked so elegant and dignified. I don't really want them to look like everyone else. They wear normal clothes at any other time so what's the problem?

volver Thu 29-Sep-22 16:00:32

I actually love our RF wearing uniforms and medals on special occasions.

Even the 14-year old who somehow has managed to be worthy of 2 medals while still at school, just for being somebody's son?

Blossoming Thu 29-Sep-22 16:11:46

Chestnut once again, I have stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. I don’t have a problem. I was hoping for a discussion.

welbeck Thu 29-Sep-22 16:14:08

those were jubilee medals given to family members on the occasion of the queen's diamond and platinum jubilee.
he has the luck, honour and now great sadness to be GS to the queen. leave him alone.

Cold Thu 29-Sep-22 16:16:10

volver

^I actually love our RF wearing uniforms and medals on special occasions.^

Even the 14-year old who somehow has managed to be worthy of 2 medals while still at school, just for being somebody's son?

I didn't think that Viscount Severn wore medals that were solely military in nature . I thought they were Jubilee medals that were given to a wide range of people including employees of the Royal household

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:16:58

volver

^I actually love our RF wearing uniforms and medals on special occasions.^

Even the 14-year old who somehow has managed to be worthy of 2 medals while still at school, just for being somebody's son?

No, they were Jubilee medals, not military medals.

Anyone can buy Jubilee medals and if they want to wear them it's up to them. He's 14, a child, do you have to criticise a child too?

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:17:35

X post, Cold

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:20:08

And X post, welbeck.

Cold Thu 29-Sep-22 16:21:31

The Swedes slimmed down their Royal family in the same way that the Danes have just done back in 2019.

There is also a requirement to live and to have been brought up in Sweden to become a working Royal and to remain in the Swedish Line of Succession. There was discussion that Princess Madeleine's children would not have been eligible anyway as she chose to step back from being a working Royal and has brought up her children in Florida

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:26:01

Oh, Crown Princess Mary of Denmark is Australian ?

Cold Thu 29-Sep-22 16:28:36

Callistemon21

Oh, Crown Princess Mary of Denmark is Australian ?

Is that a problem?

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:34:30

There is also a requirement to live and to have been brought up in Sweden to become a working Royal and to remain in the Swedish Line of Succession.

Just wondering if the Danes might decide to go the same way - it would mean she couldn't work as a royal.
I'm sure they won't.

welbeck Thu 29-Sep-22 16:40:49

i think marrying into, ie coming to the country is different from choosing to leave it.

volver Thu 29-Sep-22 16:41:35

Callistemon21

volver

I actually love our RF wearing uniforms and medals on special occasions.

Even the 14-year old who somehow has managed to be worthy of 2 medals while still at school, just for being somebody's son?

No, they were Jubilee medals, not military medals.

Anyone can buy Jubilee medals and if they want to wear them it's up to them. He's 14, a child, do you have to criticise a child too?

I know fine what medals they were, but thanks anyway.

I'm not criticising a child, so let's not adopt that silly line of attack, shall we?

I'm criticising a system and society that thinks it's perfectly normal for a wee boy to wear showy metal and ribbon mirroring military honours, just for being alive while his grandma was.

That's all. I know I won't be popular.

By the way, have we decided? Can you buy them or do you just get them for being somebody considered important? By the way I know the answer, just wondering what else people might come up with.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Sep-22 16:53:07

Available on Amazon and other reputable sites if you're interested.

Do stop calling posters or their posts silly, it's tiresome.

It's unpleasant to criticise a child.