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NotTooOld Mon 28-Mar-16 17:11:23

I've just seen a pic of Nick Blackwell, the young boxer who is now in an induced coma in hospital. He developed a bleed on the brain during a fight with Chris Eubank Junior. The fight was eventually stopped but not soon enough to avoid this tragedy.

Apparently Chris Eubank Senior went into the ring and told his son not to hit Blackwell on the head any more but to aim for his body. This may have been for humanitarian reasons or (as some have said ) it may have been because blows to the head were not working and so body blows would be more likely to win the fight.

Boxing has traditionally been seen as a way for young working class men to make good and earn some money but surely this sort of thing cannot be justified?

Jane10 Mon 28-Mar-16 17:25:24

Boxing is incomprehensible to me! I read some pretty dismissive comments by the Boxing Board after this chap ended up in intensive care.

mollie Mon 28-Mar-16 17:25:33

I've never understood a sport that sets out to batter the breath out of another person. I know officianados claim it's more than that but I don't agree. Make them wear head guards at least...

God spare Nick Blackwell...

loopylou Mon 28-Mar-16 17:44:40

Boxing = legalised AbH/GBH and evidently permits brain trauma
Sickening activity sport

Anniebach Mon 28-Mar-16 17:46:23

I detest this so called sport

glassortwo Mon 28-Mar-16 18:45:22

Why wasnt this fight stopped!!!!!
Chris Eubank had the sense to see that the referee wasnt going to stop the fight and he warned Chris Jnr body blows only, disgrace that the fight wasnt stopped.

absent Mon 28-Mar-16 18:55:08

I know nothing about this boxing match until I looked at this thread, but am saddened that a young man has been so badly injured. I have always hated the "sport" although I appreciate that successful boxers are very skilful. What I find especially nauseating about boxing is that people pay for tickets (and television companies pay for broadcasting rights) to watch two men brutalise each other; that seems little better than the cheering blood-lust of audiences in the Coliseum.

glassortwo Mon 28-Mar-16 19:07:52

absent behind you all the way, its a dreadful "sport" !!!

Synonymous Mon 28-Mar-16 19:17:54

And women are doing it too! shock

phoenix Mon 28-Mar-16 19:19:17

Either ban it, or introduce compulsory head guards.

Bloody awful "sport" I have always hated it.

Ana Mon 28-Mar-16 19:24:16

Boxers can get head injuries even with head guards. It certainly is a brutal activity and I can't understand the people (especially the women) who sit ringside and support it - horrible!

suzied Mon 28-Mar-16 19:31:52

I guess In the defence of boxing , that it gives a controlled outlet to many youngsters who would otherwise be on the streets. Boxing clubs have turned around many antisocial kids .

glassortwo Mon 28-Mar-16 19:37:01

suzied yes I agree with that side it has helped some young boys, but its barbaric especially for women to sit and watch

ninathenana Mon 28-Mar-16 19:39:03

I can't watch it.
How is watching two people battering each other entertainment confused

Penstemmon Mon 28-Mar-16 19:48:25

Another boxer,George Groves, was a pupil at a schol where I was head. He was a quiet and reserved little boy..nothing at that stage to suggest he would have what it takes to become middleweight champion! His mum was always very protective of him. No idea how she copes when he is fighting.

Anniebach Mon 28-Mar-16 19:50:44

Yet, they choose to box, know the risks

pompa Mon 28-Mar-16 19:54:40

Whilst I can only agree with everyone about the primeval nature of boxing, I like watching armature boxing and can understand why youngsters take it up as a sport.
No one these days is forced to box, they take it up because they enjoy it, every participant knows and accepts the risks.
If you don't like it, don't box or watch it.
Compare this to National Hunt racing, where the horses get no choice.

Penstemmon Mon 28-Mar-16 20:01:58

A great many sports require intensive training which can impact on the health of the ayhlete/sportsperson. I worry for young gymnasts and rugby players too .maybe not as risky as boxing but can cause lifelong damage.

phoenix Mon 28-Mar-16 22:44:48

pompa I have to disagree with you with regard to racing, both National Hunt & Flat.

On the flat,it is not unknown for horses to refuse to leave the stalls, & there was an NH horse (whose name I can't remember) who last season refused to race so many times that he ended up being banned!

Tegan Mon 28-Mar-16 23:11:03

Mad Moose...think he has his own fanclub these days....bet he has a Facebook page.

Eloethan Mon 28-Mar-16 23:27:17

I have for many years believed that it is wrong to describe as a "sport" two men (or women) aiming blows to each other's head and upper body and hoping for a "knock out". I can never understand how my dad, who normally abhorred violence, would nevertheless be quite happy to sit and watch the most brutal of boxing matches - ditto my granddad, husband and son (my daughter feels like me). It seems to be more a male thing - though, of course, I also know women who enjoy watching it and who think it is a perfectly legitimate sport.

Whilst men of all educational backgrounds may take up amateur boxing in their teens, through school or clubs, I'm not sure that there are many trained barristers, accountants or the like who decide to pursue it as a professional career. It seems to me that it is predominantly young people who have come from less advantaged backgrounds and who have little in the way of qualifications that are attracted to boxing as a way of earning some money.

The argument is often put forward that other sports, such as motor racing, rugby, football, etc., cause greater numbers of serious injuries than boxing. That is so, but such injuries are an unfortunate by-product of the sport rather than the primary purpose of it.

Apparently, most doctors say that head guards and other supposed safety measures will not protect a boxer who is being regularly subjected to heavy blows to the head. It is also said that something like 80% of boxers will over a period of time acquire varying degrees of brain damage.

pompa Tue 29-Mar-16 07:01:13

Oh come on Pheonix, a horse does not have choice when raced over jumps, it does not appreciate the fact that if it breaks a leg it will be destroyed.

Grannyknot Tue 29-Mar-16 07:09:54

I find boxing upsetting too.
But as we're on the subject of unnecessary injury and harm on the pursuit of entertainment - I am (have been since a young age) appalled at the state of professional ballet dancers' feet. I mean - standing on the tip of your toes?! How unnatural is that.

Grannyknot Tue 29-Mar-16 07:10:22

That "on" should be "in".