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The word is....

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Anne58 Wed 18-Jan-12 22:49:09

Definitely
Advice

'Nuff said.

PS I know that the word is "enough". wink

Notsogrand Wed 18-Jan-12 22:55:05

I think we can all live with that phoenix smile confused

Annobel Wed 18-Jan-12 23:07:06

Definitely! My advice to my students who almost invariably spelt it wrongly was to think of the word 'finite'. Nobody spells it 'finate' - at least I hope not. grin

Notsogrand Wed 18-Jan-12 23:12:28

Oh, spellings. Right.

Anne58 Wed 18-Jan-12 23:21:40

Glad this has been received well so far, I was a tad nervous!

em Thu 19-Jan-12 21:33:56

How do you feel about practice/practise? Doesn't help that USA spelling and usage is the opposite of ours.
Notso I 'm trying to imagine what you thought she meant!

jeni Thu 19-Jan-12 22:28:17

I was in general practice and I practise the harp?

Annobel Thu 19-Jan-12 22:40:27

You get a tick for that,*jeni*.

absentgrana Fri 20-Jan-12 10:51:00

em In the US, it's always spelt practice, whether it's a verb or a noun. Practise is just regarded as an English usage.

bagitha Fri 20-Jan-12 10:58:34

I have to think about practice and practise every time I use them. I can get it right because I know one is a noun and one is a verb, but I still get it wrong sometimes because of 'keyboarding error' confused. Then I'm embarassed when I see my mistake. Which makes me think there's a case for following the Americans shock and abandoning the practice of spelling the verb practise.

Annobel Fri 20-Jan-12 11:03:41

Bags , use the analogy of advice (noun) and advise (verb); prophecy (noun) and prophesy (verb). I seems to be an accident of history that practice and practise are pronounced the same way.

bagitha Fri 20-Jan-12 11:09:52

Ah. Didn't know that. Thank you. But, accidents or not, they are pronounced the same and it causes problems. What I'm wondering is if the American practice of spelling both noun and verb the same way undermines understanding at all. If it doesn't, then what the hell? wink

bagitha Fri 20-Jan-12 11:11:00

People often get advice wrong too.

jeni Fri 20-Jan-12 11:16:55

I would advise you to follow my advice?

Mamie Fri 20-Jan-12 11:23:12

I am re-reading Claire Tomalin's biography of Jane Austen and have been reminded that they pronounced join as jine.

Butternut Fri 20-Jan-12 11:24:16

jeni...and that would affect the effect on my decision making.... wink

bagitha Fri 20-Jan-12 11:26:02

I saw a cute picture of a kitten this morning and thought: it looks as if it's sucking its thumb.

gracesmum Fri 20-Jan-12 15:15:59

Baggie if that's what it takes.........go with it, but I draw the line at cute kittens!grin

Elegran Fri 20-Jan-12 15:31:42

Advice, vice, lice and ice are all nouns and all have a C.

bagitha Fri 20-Jan-12 15:41:31

gracesmum, grin.

goldengirl Sat 21-Jan-12 12:36:12

I'm still having problems with affect and effect blush. Is there a sentence as used above for practice/practise that anyone can suggest which will help, please?

jeni Sat 21-Jan-12 12:42:04

If someone has a flat affect, what would be the most effective treatment?

em Sat 21-Jan-12 13:41:37

Fed-up of seeing 'Off-License' above shops. Should also follow the rule of c for nouns (so off-licence) and s for verbs (so licensed to sell alcohol).

The student worked at the doctor's practice so that he could practise medicine?

gracesmum Sun 03-Jun-12 12:43:00

Tech dears- the word is "resuscitate" not resucitate (see intro headlines) - I suspect that even in extremis I would still care!smile

Greatnan Sun 03-Jun-12 12:56:49

Supersede appears to give problems - somehow 'supercede' looks better.
I used to teach my pupils that they could remember the difference in the spellings of 'separate' and 'desperate' because the former had 'part' in it.
Cars with an 'a' are stationary, and pens with an 'e' are stationery.
'Principal' is your first friend, and 'principle' is the other one!
'Definitely' is another word that is often spelt wrongly - I don't know why.
Do schools still teach these little nmemonics?