I wish I hadn't volunteered now

Oh dear, does sound a bit of a problem, but if the puppy isn't properly house trained, it's not going to be easy.

Have you tried those training pads that you put on the floor, preferably near the door?

Yes. My stepson gave me a packet left over from his dog. I have placed so many around it looks like snow on the carpet but she still manages to find the gaps!

I'm so sorry for you , it's lovely you're helping out but with no garden or accessible outdoor space this was always going to be a challenge.

For the pup - is she house trained at home ? I think there are 2 options. Firstly , more walks without the other dog. Do you walk directly after food - that's when they like to poo quite often.

Or a crate /cage. They rarely soil their sleeping space and it can also keep the two dogs separate.

At this stage I shouldn't worry about the humping , your daughter needs to deal with this , but quite honestly you can only battle on so many fronts.

You can get a handy gizmo that allows you to clip 2 ordinary leads to it and avoids tangling but it won't work with an extended flexi lead.

It's going to be a long 2 weeks I fear . Good luck !

Oh no! It sounds like you've got a difficult two weeks ahead of you. Our dog was a real handful when he was young (Border Collie) so you have my sympathy.

I wonder if you dip one of the training pads in her wee and lay it down she might go on the pad next time? It may be worth trying. If it works then I'd go and buy a good supply of them.

For walking, can you get a fixed length of lead and one of those adapter things which enable you to walk two dogs on the single lead. Is there anywhere you can go to let them have a really good run off the lead during the day? With a bit of luck if you can tire them out a bit it may calm things down. Have they got indoor toys they can keep themselves amused with?

Good luck!

Not with dogs but with son and dil 2 cats .after 3 days we just wanted to take them back home and if I had a key I would have done and just gone round to feed them. They kept us awake all night every night with using the stairs and banister as an adventure playground .They scratched wallpaper in the sides of window sills . They terrorised my dog.They would pounce from nowhere and scare us to death while watching tv .
Hope you start to relax a little but just having a puppy is like having a new baby and very stressful so I imagine you are in for a right old couple of weeks with the two of them.

Now this truly is my idea of hell.

Have you tried baby nappies? My DD used these for her dog in heat and seemed to work.
On the walking front - I know it would take twice as long but could you take one at a time?
Good luck x

Scenting the training pads with her wee is an excellent idea Smurf and giving loads of praise when she does go outside as well as a little treat when she comes inside again.

Quite a stern verbal reprimand when she goes in the house might help too and then taking her outside as soon as you've seen she's had an accident.

As for the other other issue, I've never had to cope with a bitch in season but can imagine how difficult that must be.

You're going to need a lot of patience, that's for sure.

to cheer you up and aor your favourite tipple probably wouldn't go amiss.

Nanaandgrampy - no the pup was not housetrained. DIL has MS and other health problems. She has an always open backdoor to garden so i suppose the pup got used to that. I think she might have tried harder if she had carpet and not laminate floors.
They have their first meal AFTER our walk at 8, but if i feed them before when we get up, surely they will soil everywhere after a night's break while i get their food ready? I really wish i had a garden as I had with my dog. She used to go out there first thing, then i fed her and we went for a longer walk mid morning .
I have two crates i borrowed which i leave them in when i (rarely) go out but they whine.
I bought the splitter lead yesterday but they don't pee or poo if i use it.
Oriel - good idea, will try it
I have express deliveried puppy nappies for tomorrow for pup to wear indoors which should hopefully deal with my biggest stress.

Elainel - i have rushed nappies with express delivery tomorrow. Hoping that will solve the problem indoors. Someone else suggested taking them out separately so i will try that but i expect there will be some whining. My other half was visiting (he usually stays weekends) as he saw my dilemma and took the older one while i took the pup for a walk, which worked well. So well we were gone for an hour and the pup did a poo - yay.
Smileless2012 - will do as you suggest to encourage her and what a wonderful suggestion, I will open that bottle of Prosecco i have chilling in the fridge...once we're back from last walkies!!

I wouldnt use anything but diluted biological soap powder, anything else will just attract them to pee in the same place again. Stick it in a spray bottle. Hope that helps

Have had dogs all my life, some from pups, some rescue dogs, but have never used dog "nappies" !

To be honest, I can't imagine anything more ridiculous, if you have a dog, then surely there is a responsibility to train it?

Yes, babies have to wear nappies, as there is quite a long gap before they can walk, or have control over bowel or bladder, but Dogs !

For goodness sake, (and that's the polite version) get a grip!

Ignore the whining and say No to them very firmly. If you let them out of the crates because they are whining you are rewarding bad behavior and they will whine even more. Use the crates to give you some peace and they will get to like them.. I am surprised you let them sleep on your bed, especially when one is in season. I would put them to sleep in the crates Remember your rules, your house, not your dil's rules, who with a garden has a completely different situation.

Your sanity is important.

Just a thought, could you stay in your former DiL's place for the duration? Access to the garden and will save your home from the "issues".

I said I would look after my nieces dog several years ago I was in rented accommodation the dog ruined the bedroom carpet which I had to replace I was really fedup with the whole situation but unfortunately my niece was suffering from a back operation so like you i offered to help sometimes we are too kind for our own good

Poor you. Can you get a crate just borrow one? It would help.

Will the pet owner come and shampoo your carpets for you when she gets home. Those dogs are a real handful for you.

My 'friend' just gave me her door key and expected me to feed her cats daily for over 2 weeks and I have to drive there and back, not that far for her but my mobility is poor. I know how you must feel because your home is invaded and all this on heat stuff is just horrid to be coping with.

The road to hell and all that..........

Bless you for being so kind.

There is stuff that you can get for bitches on season that is supposed to stop the dogs getting interested. I remember my mum having to rub some on our bitch although I think the dog was still keen. That was a long time ago so there may be something better now.
I've just looked it up and apparently there is something called 'Lust Buster'. There seem to be quite a few websites with advice about this. Google 'bitch in heat keeping dogs away.

Not much use this time round but, for the future, why not suggest an organisation that specialises in putting together pet owners with pet sitters. I belong to one....Won't give the name in case it's seen as advertising...but can provide details via a PM if of interest. I'm currently on a flat and cat sit in Switzerland. All based on altruism. No money involved. Sitters all police checked. Hope this helps.

Hi Smurf
It may help to cut down the food the pup is eating, what they can't digest goes straight through them. Pups are very inclined to toilet where they are familiar, try to do the same walk same tree etc, get her to know her area then she will be more confident.

I they've only been with you a couple of days AND one of them is in season the dogs are probably more stressed than you are right now. You don't say when you're feeding them but consider the feeding times and time the walks to correspond with their natural urges to pee & poo. Remember they shouldn't be walked directly after a meal. Crating them, if they've never been in a crate before will only heighten their stress. They need time to adjust, same as you do, their world has just been turned inside out.. And as for extendable leads - they're a menace! Keep them on short leads - walk them separately if necessary, that way they get on with the job in hand and don't distract one another. You've only got another 10 days or so, it's not the end of the world, even though it may feel like it from time to time. Hope things settle down.

Thanks all. The male has stopped humping. I have the crates which i am using. I am taking onboard all your advice and hopefully there will be light st the
Phoenix - don't forget i am not the dogs owner, its 2 weeks only, i am trying to save my carpet as I'm in rented and i have no garden. I never had nappies for my pup years ago. I am just trying to save my sanity so please don't be so quick to judge. I am trying to do someone a favour and making the best of things.

No dog sitter worth their salt would take on a 7 month old female pup who had not gone in heat because they always do when the owner is away . They cause havoc.
Try white vinegar anywhere you done want them weeing.

Phoenix, the dog nappies are to stop the blood from the pups first season dripping on the carpets, not for wee or poo!
The OP doesn't own these dogs she's just looking after them while owner is on holiday.

I would put down a good layer of old newspapers on my carpets, if I were you. I know it looks dreadful, but soiled or wet newspaper can just be thrown out and is easier to deal with than having to shampoo carpets.