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Inclusivity?

(18 Posts)
Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 07:44:09

The new Archbishop of Canterbury is, of course, a man. He is also white. And guess where he was educated?

petallus Sun 11-Nov-12 08:12:40

Gnash gnash!

That's finished my flirtation with the Christian church.

vampirequeen Sun 11-Nov-12 09:29:56

No surprise there then. Sentamu was a much better qualified and more experienced candidate. Call me a cynic but I can't help wondering if ..........do I need to say it.

jO5 Sun 11-Nov-12 09:32:21

Can't you just go with the man? hmm

absentgrana Sun 11-Nov-12 09:34:20

I think I shall wait and see but yes, he is about the most establishment figure anyone could imagine.

Barrow Sun 11-Nov-12 09:38:30

Before passing judgment I prefer to wait and see what he does. The last Archbishop was a disaster in my opinion - at least this one isn't afriad to say he believes in God!

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 09:40:22

I am not passing judgement, I am stating facts.

MiceElf Sun 11-Nov-12 10:19:24

Indeed. But the same applies to the the PM, the DPM, the Lord Chief Justice.....

He can't help where his parents sent him to school but his own children went to comprehensives, he has a fine track record in human rights especially in Nigeria and has tackled the greed of corporate business head on.

For those of us with a religious belief he needs our prayers as his job is a very very difficult one. He will get mine.

absentgrana Sun 11-Nov-12 10:23:50

I have to say that I'm not really sure what the Archbish of Canterbury actually does – apart from the obvious bit in frock and silly hat conducting services and, possibly, crowning the next monarch. I know it's always being described as difficult, demanding, etc. but I don't know how or why.

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 11:13:47

I think he has to stop the Little Enders and the Big Enders (liberal v evangelical) from tearing each other to pieces about women bishops, gay marriage, etc.
I love religion, it is such a force for peace in the world - I heard on Sunday on Radio 4 this morning that the various sects who jointly use the Church of the Sepulchre in Jerusalem are at each other's throats again about who pays the water bill. Apparently, the pesky pilgrims keep using the lavatories and washing their hands.

jeni Sun 11-Nov-12 11:36:12

greatnanofcourse he's a man! They haven't got any women bishops yet!

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 11:39:13

I know - I keep a close eye on the most powerful religions. Forewarned is forearmed.

Joan Mon 12-Nov-12 07:28:27

He is in favour of woman bishops but not too sure about gay marriage. Sentamu would have been more traditional, I think.

I doubt if the new Arch will be able to unite opinion on either women or gays: far be it for science and logic to intrude upon religious prejudices. I do believe he will try his best though.

Atheism gives you a great, objective view from the sidelines. Incidentally, has anyone read Sayeeda Warsi on religion. Very good stuff, especially considering she's a Tory!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231168/Baroness-Warsi-Maypoles-harvest-festivals-Christmas-carols--time-minorities-join-in.html

Greatnan Mon 12-Nov-12 07:44:00

He appears to be wavering about his attitude to gay marriage.
Baroness Warsi speaks much good sense - it is a pity she was 'less than transparent' about her claim for expenses.

Grannyeggs Mon 12-Nov-12 08:32:09

This man is in favour of woman Bishops. Let's just get on and see how he is, give him a chance before we attack. I like Sentanu but he is not a liberal, against gay marriage and women Bishops. Welby may be the right man for the job.

JessM Mon 12-Nov-12 08:42:38

The fairly recent appointment of this chap in NZ capital city highlights just how traditional the C or E really is. Note the dreadlocks and earrings. And the CV. grin

wn.anglican.org.nz/bishop_of_wellington

Greatnan Mon 12-Nov-12 09:20:12

Ah....New Zealand.....I love it!

annodomini Mon 12-Nov-12 10:20:03

Not an old Etonian, then... wink