To think it's all got a bit silly?

You could be right, noodles, but I think some Scots do feel England has dominated in various ways. Thus the desire for independence in some quarters.

I'm not a Scot, btw. I just live in Scotland, and love it because its beauty appeals to me.

Isn't it a crazy convention that all the men in the Royal Box had to wear suits and ties while the women could be as cool as they liked? Posh's dress looked like her underwear.

I think that there should be a purely English parliament for purely English concerns, just as there are Welsh and Scottish ones for purely Welsh and Scottish concerns. I think it was a big mistake not to arrange that. So I agree, the West Lothian question needs to be resolved. No idea how though.

Bags Blaming England has always been the easy answer - "their fault, not mine". That way, you don't have to address the problem.

Yes, anno. But would Cameron have been refused entry if he'd arrived without a tie? Or would he have been thrown out if he'd taken it off?

I would if I were a man.

Stupid rules.

I'm not blaming England.

It has just occurred to me, again, how sexist our formal clothing 'rules' are. It's allright for women to be scantily dressed (even in stuff that looks like underwear) because women are decorative and don't have to looks serious. Whereas men have to look pompous in suits. So at every formal event, the men are wearing at least two layers of clothing, buttoned and tied up in their shirts and collars and ties, not to mention jackets, and women can have vast expanses of décolletage.

Yooman beans are mad.

Bags you make me

What are Yooman Beans?? .

I may have missed the reference because I've left my glasses by the side of the swimming pool at a friends house, and am peering fuzzily at GN with a mint tea before I brave the heat again to fetch them. (No air-con in the old car).
All completely inconsequential to this thread. Ah well.......it's been a lovely day.

Going back to the subject of flags, when we go to Cheltenham for the Festival each March there are always plenty of Irish winners and, when they win the Irish flag is draped over them and waved. Now, I love it, and so does everyone else. Except for the fact that I wonder what would happen if we went to Punchestown and waved an English flag if an English horse won? Well, I know what would happen [and it's never likely to happen for that reason]. It just seems unfair. As for the politicians on Sunday [from all parties] shame on them for trying to get brownie points. It was Andy's day and Andy's victory. They were all as bad as each other, flag waving or otherwise.

Translation of yooman beans – human beings.

Ah-ha!
Thanks. All makes sense now.

Getting back to the original question...No its not got all silly, he only did it yesterday, let him have his moments of pride, fame and adulation. He and his family have worked so hard and although I've never been a fan of his I can admire his hard work and determination. Its taken us 77 years to get this..lets all say 'Well done' and raise a cheer. News is usually full of such nasty stuff its nice to have a good story leading the news.
Mind you, if we are all still banging on about it next month I might change my mind.

To me what was great about yesterday was that Andy's victory was so well-deserved - there was nothing fluke-y or lucky about it, he was playing the world no1, not someone who had sneaked into the final by beating a worthier opponent on an off-day as sometimes happens, and did so with amazing consistency and mental courage.
The other great thing was Djokovic's sportsmanship and magnanimity in his speech after the game - what a gentleman.

For me it is a relief after all the news we get. I can understand if tennis doesn't interest people. There are sports that send me to sleep but I do love tennis. I played it at school.

I'm not a big tennis fan, but got caught up in the excitement of Andy must win, and I think it's wonderful that there's a new sporting hero, and janea I agree wholeheartedly with your post.

I love it that something can make people so happy that they are delirious with delight and do silly things.

Glad to know I am not the only person who did not have a clue who Bradley Cooper and Gerard Butler were

THIS makes his win all the more worthwhile.

Quite, Anno, a very good thing.

All this fuss about the first British winner for 77 years - everyone seems to have forgotten Virginia Wade, but maybe being a woman they all think she isn't a real winner? Herumph!

Just looked that up, oblalala. 1977.

As a former Wimbledon resident (most of my life) but not a tennis fan I am happy for AM to have his day and for the rest of GB sports fans to enjoy his success. I think it is a happy success story so good luck to him!
I had a houseful of friends around yesterday for lunch.. some were keen fans and kept dashing into watch the TV...I did not mind!

The last time I saw her on Telly, Virginia Wade wasn't a man but stranger things have happened.

Yes, Andy Murray is the first to win the men's singles in 77 years.

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