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Rolf Harris

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NanKate Thu 15-May-14 09:58:25

As the trial continues I notice that every photo I see of Rolf going into court his wife is grinning widely and Rolf appears to be supported physically by his family.

Whatever the truth is I wish his wife didn't look as if they were going to a party. Also Rolf has always been quite sprightly, I wonder if his new demeanour is being put on.

What do you think ?

annodomini Tue 08-Jul-14 22:45:15

never per se respected U.K. law, particularly as it is often at variance to the other European countries' laws. As a matter of fact, Ivan, there is no such thing as UK law. Scotland has always had its own legal system, quite separate from the rest of the UK.

petallus Wed 09-Jul-14 03:39:25

papaoscar take comfort that the beast is under lock and key by all means. What about the many other beasts who are still out there though?

Last week I saw a picture of an eight year old girl who had been gang raped.

And let's not even get into Westminster!

Aka Wed 09-Jul-14 09:45:07

Rose it was about bogus solicitors.

rosequartz Wed 09-Jul-14 10:49:58

Sorry, but reading petallus's last post and having heard such dreadful things when I was working, I think some of them need castrating. There, I've said it. Now wait for the politically correct, human rights outrage.

whenim64 Wed 09-Jul-14 11:26:23

Castration doesn't stop them offending, nor does chemical castration on its own, unless it's accompanied by sex offender treatment which re-educates the sex offender, and even then it's not guaranteed to work for all. But, we don't imprison sex offenders for the whole of their natural lives.

Iam64 Wed 09-Jul-14 18:51:28

I can sympathise a bit with your feelings rose, but don't want a society where we castrate people. Better assessments of young, potential sex offenders, better education for all of us about this horrible topic, better treatment facilities. And life imprisonment for those assessed to pose a continuing, high, risk.

sunseeker Wed 09-Jul-14 19:06:00

Children need to be educated as to when and where it is right or wrong for someone touch them and if in doubt to call for help.

When my brothers children were very small he taught them that if someone tried to touch them or ask them to go with them they were to shout as loud as possible "I need a grown up"

Iam64 Wed 09-Jul-14 19:32:37

I agree we need to help our children understand the risks in life. It can be done without scaring them, or 'taking away their innocence' as some still say.
The greater risks to children are from loved ones, friends of the family and trusted adults in the community/school. The much loved head teacher at our children's primary school was suspended due to abuse allegations, dating back to before his appointment at our school. Unfortunately, many parents told their children that lies were the cause of his suspension. No children from that school came forward for 5several years, during which time, he'd continued to abuse.

rosequartz Wed 09-Jul-14 20:25:00

I know, it was a gut reaction from reading Petallus's post, and from some of the absolutely horrific cases I knew about which I still cannot forget.

whenim64 Wed 09-Jul-14 20:35:05

I know what you mean rosequartz. So many people I can remember vividly because of what they suffered, or what others did to harm children. I can weep now, remembering conversations I've had, not comprehending how one human being can treat another like that. It's so tempting to lock these abusers up and pretend we can forget they exist...........

rosequartz Wed 09-Jul-14 20:42:02

Might deter others from offending if the sentences were more severe.

Deedaa Wed 09-Jul-14 20:51:13

DD and I were talking about the abuse Vanessa Feltz has suffered over her claim to have been assaulted by Rolf Harris and I began to wonder - when did sexual abuse of children become more acceptable tthan sexual abuse of plumpish adult women?

Ana Wed 09-Jul-14 20:58:49

No point weeping. I don't understand that.

whenim64 Wed 09-Jul-14 21:33:03

I thought the cruel jibes at Vanessa Feltz were uncalled for. No matter what people think of her, it must have taken courage to disclose what happened to her. She didn't disclose to the media first - she spoke to police, who she says directed her to remain silent until the case had been heard.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Jul-14 09:21:57

What if a paedophile requests castration? Would he get it?

Seems a sensible solution to me. (Not enforced, of course). The desire for all such practices would go.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Jul-14 09:23:27

Maybe being a social worker makes you prey to depression in later life when you are no longer directly involved with the work.

whenim64 Thu 10-Jul-14 09:47:28

No point requesting castration - it's not relevant or effective for sex offenders. It's the brain that's the problem.

I personally don't suffer from depression, thankfully. My sense of compassion is heightened by observing distress in others after all those years working in child protection.

MiceElf Thu 10-Jul-14 09:59:53

I'm just idly wondering what the occupation was of those who make snarky comments on social networking sites after retirement.

Ana Thu 10-Jul-14 10:10:42

You can't mean me then - I'm not retired.
As for 'snarky comments', perhaps you could elaborate, MiceElf.

rosequartz Thu 10-Jul-14 10:22:31

Some people have empathy, others do not.

What us wrong with people who troll victims? They are sick themselves. Hopefully Vanessa Feltz is a woman feisty enough and strong enough to deal emotionally with both the molester and the trolls, unlike some of the other victims brave enough to speak up.

busybee08 Mon 14-Jul-14 16:02:46

Well RH got what he deserved....

Not enough in my eyes,

I have heard this lunchtime a victim of child abuse as just been imprisoned for speaking out about the abuse she suffered in beechwood childrens home..

This my friends is what is going on to-day....

We should all be trying to help these that have suffered in care home or any abuse where ever it took place....

Or have we all become....there by the grace of ..GOD ...go I.....

I certianly know I hav'nt......

my eyes have been opened up as of late, to what really as been going on
I'm sorry victims and survivers I hope you get your apologies off these monsters. which you rightly deserve.......

God bless you all.....

busybee08 Mon 14-Jul-14 16:08:05

rosequartz

just read your comment posted Thursday...
I have to much empathy...

busybee08 Mon 14-Jul-14 16:37:16

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papaoscar Fri 25-Jul-14 18:22:56

Hope it's nice and hot in the nick for Rolf and his mates.

Nonu Fri 25-Jul-14 19:13:11

Probably got nice A/C, can"t have the prisoners human rights abused eh !!

tbgrin