Illegal immigration - what to do?

Anya When you post remarks like To be honest I've had an overdose of blue links from a certain poster and CBA to read them any more, you can hardly accuse me of being offensive.

And you say you don't offend anyone Eloethan?

'For those who prefer not to read anything that may threaten their view of the world' .....what an utterly stupid post. In fact, you have no idea how widely any of us read, or how our views of the world are influenced.

Just because we may have a different view of the world, which may not tally with yours, does not give you the right to to post such judgemental and unpleasant remarks.

So anyway I read the article. It didn't add anything to my sum of knowledge about refugees, there is nothing there I haven't read before, better written by refugees themselves.

I also watched A Song For Jenny last night.

I know it was home-grown terrorists who were responsible for the 7/7 bombings, but our security forces have a job to do to prevent more attacks like that. It may be that some innocent people are over scrutinised but that is the price that has to be paid on the age we live in, because for sure, it is innocent people and their families who pay the price otherwise.

I can't see what the problem is. Durhamjen has provided a link to an article that some people may find interesting - I did. For those who prefer not to read anything that may threaten their view of the world, they are perfectly at liberty to ignore it.

But I expect you'll ignore that fact!

You have very often said 'read this' or 'you need to read this' durhamjen before or after one of your links, so it's untrue to say you've never asked anyone to read your links.

Not everyone reads all newspapers. I do not expect them to. What I do know is that some people on here do like to read articles I put links to.

If everybody did what you do, Ana, nobody would read anything other than the stuff in the papers they read. We'd all be sniping at each other.

I put the link on because it's a very long article about an Algerian asylum seeker who can go nowhere because he was thought a long time ago to be linked to a ricin threat which was later realised was not a ricin threat.

It is appalling that we, in a supposedly civilised country, can treat an asylum seeker like this.

Jingl, I've never asked anyone to read my links. I put them on so that people can read them if they want to. Many people give intelligent comments after reading them.
The others I ignore as much as possible. Just so you know why I am ignoring your and Ana's comments from now on, and it saves you asking why.

To be honest I've had an overdose of blue links from a certain poster and CBA to read them any more.

Yes, very...

Weird.

I don't really give a flying what you do or don't post ana but like you I can post what I want too! Nah nah neNah Nah! Grow up!

Thank you for your opinion, penstemmon. I will post whatever comments I choose to, whether you like them or not.

The last post on here is a very moving report from an Italian, describing the problems they are facing now, being flooded with immigrants:
ww2talk.com/forums/topic/57366-immigration-flux-what-should-we-do/page-2#entry676069

Ana lots of people post informative links on various threads. If you CBA to read it that is not an issue..just no need for you to comment at all. In fact jen did say the article left her incredulous so that is a big hint on how she feels!

Of course I'm concerned about illegal immigration.

I can source articles from The Guardian just like everyone else - I'd rather durhamjen put her own thoughts on the subject on this forum, that's all.

And I'm sure she can defend herself.

What is the point in making posts like that more like. Who does read all of jen's links?

Ana; what's the point of commenting about something that you have NO interest in [I assume that, if you WERE interested you would want to read the article]. Don't you get tired of constantly commenting on jens links?

No idea, I don't read your links. Why not tell us what it says?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/05/kafkaesque-life-of-terror-suspect-in-britain-algerian-asylum-seeker

Just read this. It's appalling, yet I found myself laughing - with incredulity - while reading it.

What have we come to?

Bez, that's a dangerous situation, and if anyone is turning a blind eye in France, and I bet they are, as you say, imagine what could happen!

Frightening!

Can I just ask if many of you saw the mobile phone video footage taken on the platforms to the Eurotunnel trains yesterday - a film taken by a lorry driver was shown on ITN news and from a car on BBC news. Both of these films show men getting onto the Eurotunnel trains after the cars/lorries have gone through all the security checks and got onto the platforms ready to board trains. The Freight trains have trellised sides and at the end of each 'carriage' a place to get on or off the train as the drivers do not remain in their vehicles as the car drivers do - they get into a bus which drives slowly along the platform and they travel in a carriage similar to a tube train while the trains is going through the tunnel. Men wearing yellow fluorescent jackets could clearly be seen waving to these illegal people and showing the thumbs up. There were others on the car platform boarding the trains in the station - no one seemed to be checking this and normally there are staff at the train n trance and along the platform we have never really driven along a train as the cars seemed to be doing but have entered the trains very quickly and driven down the interior of the train.
Once the likes of ISIS or similar realise about this loophole what a target the tunnel will be - think of the damage, chaos and cost to life and the financies if there was a suicide bomber on board!!! It doesn't bear thinking about but shows what dopes are in charge of the security!

I know some decent immigrants too which is why I'm so sceptical about potential 'chancers'. The immigrants I know rage about them. I think there must be massive misinformation fed back to people. I suppose none of the men at Calais are going to tell their families what a big mistake its all been. The traffickers must spin some yarns in their efforts to get their filthy hands on peoples money.

Jane10 many of these young men come exactly because many do not have wife/kids yet but hoped to get an education & make money to send home. Some have been on the 'journey' for several years, taking a while to cross regions in Africa to get to the coast and then on to Europe. I am sure amongst the many there will be a few 'chancers' but honestly, if you did not have to would you live in a squatter camp in Calais??

I knew a woman and her daughter once who were here illegally. The mother had lost a leg when she set of a landmine trying to escape from some militia that her cast/tribe /religion was in danger from. Her daughter survived because she was thrown clear in the blast. She was brought to UK under humanitarian flag for treatment but was due to be sent back to the horror she had escaped from. She was living in the shadows doing illegal piece work and I suspect prostitution because even that twilight world was better than taking her beloved daughter back to war.

petra I was using mobile phones as an example of what appears to be a desirable consumer item. I'm quite sure there ARE people traffickers right here unfortunately.

Jane10. A lot of migrants don't need to wait until they get to the uk for their latest mobile phone. An awful lot of them have them now. A lot of them have a contact telephone No. of the people traffickers in THIS country.