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Thistledoo Tue 17-Jun-14 14:03:35

I was wondering if any other GNs have had a similar experience to the one I had on Sunday. My DS came to visit with grandchildren, little girl aged 23 months and boy aged four. As it was such a beautiful day we were all out in the garden, myself and DH chasing children around the lawn and generally having fun. DS was sitting watching, and playing on his mobile phone as usual. I was pretending to race DGD up the lawn say to her, I am gong to catch you...... I then caught her picked her up and swung her round saying as I did so, gottya you little minx. With that my DS rounded on me with some anger saying he didn't like me using that word. I questioned him as to why , and what did he think I meant. I was told this was very disrespectful and derogatory to his daughter. I was gobsmacked and upset to say the least, I was only playing and having fun with the toddler. I was so upset in fact that I left the garden and went into the kitchen to prepare the evening meal. They then left without saying goodbye. I can remember reading a comic strip way back in my youth with a character by that name. But DH looked up the true definition in the oxford dictionary and it really is a derogatory term so why is it used so widely. I was really upset and didn't sleep on Sunday night. I would really appreciate some comments about this difficult subject.

rosequartz Tue 17-Jun-14 23:28:49

I should not have looked it up. shock and blush

And I have come across all sorts of stories in my working life.

merlotgran Tue 17-Jun-14 23:28:07

Leave it! Sweep it under the carpet!!

Peace and Love !!!!!!!

rosequartz Tue 17-Jun-14 23:26:58

Nelliemoser, I am intrigued. And I am still wondering about the hole in the wall of the toilet. confused

rosequartz Tue 17-Jun-14 23:25:04

You could try showing him this link, Thistledoo:

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jul/20/beano-75-year-anniversary where it mentions that Minnie the Minx takes on Andy Murray.

Or just leave it, but sometimes it is best not swept under the carpet.

Good luck flowers

Nelliemoser Tue 17-Jun-14 23:23:58

rosequartz My freind who emigrated to Canada a couple of years ago was admonished by the removal men who delivered the goods she had shipped over, when she used the expression "glory hole* about part of a room.

annodomini Tue 17-Jun-14 23:17:39

Thistledoo, I hope that this situation will soon blow over. I don't know why your son should be so prickly over what was a completely innocent remark and surely he should know you well enough to realise that you wouldn't dream of using bad language to or about your GD. However, if he is still ignoring you, could your DH perhaps have a conciliatory word with him and explain that you had no idea that you could be so misconstrued.

rosequartz Tue 17-Jun-14 23:11:10

Whatever next! Can't even call my messy cupboard a Glory Hole any more.

DH got annoyed if I used the term 'tosser', I thought it meant someone who was an idiot who came out with stupid remarks, but he explained carefully that it was not. Still a useful term for one or two of his friends, though.

Yes, that Iolo, I just can't spell. wink

Purpledaffodil Tue 17-Jun-14 23:02:15

Oh heck, the PC police will be really gunning for us, we often call our dear GS a cheeky monkey. He is a gorgeous mischievous four year old. He is also mixed race. I have never thought that a term we applied to our own children with love and affection could be construed as wrong but thinking about it, I would not use it of another child who was black or mixed race. Sounds trite, but we do not see colour when we look at him, just our much loved GS. I think it is all about intent and personally I never thought of Minx in any other way than as in Minnie the Minx. So I would have transgressed too Thistledoo
If you really want to see how words have changed meaning try Glory Hole on the younger generation. To us I expect it is the bit under the stairs where old shoes and tennis racquets go to die. However it now has a much less salubrious meaning involving public toilets with holes in the walls. As my friends found out when they advertised for a decorator to sort out their glory hole. It was a cupboard under the stairs, honestlysmile

merlotgran Tue 17-Jun-14 23:00:17

DS would have said, 'Mum, you can't say that any more'

I would have said, 'Why ever not?'

And we'd have had a laugh about it but the point would have been taken.

Hope it all gets smoothed out, Thistledoo. Least said, soonest mended.

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 23:00:03

(sorry, that was to jingl, but you can share it, Deeda!)

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 22:59:05

grin

Deedaa Tue 17-Jun-14 22:58:28

Minx is the sort of word my grandmother would use and you couldn't get much more prim and proper than her!

I'm afraid we all regularly refer to GS1 & 2 as monkey boys because that is how they behave smile

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 17-Jun-14 22:57:14

I think my son would have said something like, "it's ok Mum. It doesn't matter". And practically patted me on the head.

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 22:49:37

Perhaps some sons are not inclined to be so specific where their mums are concerned, Mishap and Grannyknot. Yes, it may be old-fashioned...hmm

Grannyknot Tue 17-Jun-14 22:41:36

Mishap my son would have enlightened me by saying exactly what you wrote in your first sentence.

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 22:27:15

It's another word for 'wanker', NanKate. But we use/d a lot of those words because they'd been casual terms of disapproval or criticism for ages - it's only recently that such scrutiny has been applied and certain words condemned for some reason or another...

Mishap Tue 17-Jun-14 22:23:17

To toss off means to masturbate. Now why did your son not enlighten you!?

NanKate Tue 17-Jun-14 22:17:41

I really feel for you thistle it gets harder and harder to just speak naturally without someone accusing us of some sort of 'ism'.

I said to my son recently that someone was a 'tosser' thinking it meant a vagrant/tramp. He said it was a rude word - well I still don't know what it means! Maybe someone will enlighten me.

Mishap Tue 17-Jun-14 22:08:45

I can't understand why he got his Y-fronts in such a twist and "left without saying goodbye." If I used a word that had acquired a new meaning, my DDs would laugh and say "Heavens Mum, don't you know what that means now?!" - they would enlighten me and we would all have a bit of a chuckle over it.

annodomini Tue 17-Jun-14 22:07:08

My son has often used the term 'minx' to describe his daughter, in the same sense as one might use 'a proper little madam' which she can be, though not so little now. I have never considered it a derogatory term, but now that she is approaching her teens she may discover that it has now acquired derogatory connotations, we might have to be careful what we call her. Oh dear!

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 21:50:08

www.iolowilliams.co.uk/about-iolo-2463.html

HollyDaze Tue 17-Jun-14 21:41:11

I hadn't either Ana - it's these pesky kids!

Whose lolo? I haven't heard of him!

Ana Tue 17-Jun-14 21:30:32

Shows how behind the times I am - never heard of YOLO confused

(Have heard of Iolo, though, rosequartz, and very knowledgeable he is, too!)

rosequartz Tue 17-Jun-14 21:26:57

It's a brave new world.

I thought YOLO was the dishy Welshman who presents wildlife programmes. Just shows how my mind works.

HollyDaze Tue 17-Jun-14 21:24:08

rosequartz My eldest granddaughter kept saying to me 'YOLO nanny, YOLO'. I didn't want to appear ignorant so I just chuckled but had no idea what she was saying. Eventually, I had to admit defeat after she'd said it, possibly for the thousandth time, and ask what it meant. She grinned (turned out she knew I didn't know as, apparently, I had 'a blank look in my eyes') and said it stood for 'you only live once'. Why don't you just say that, said I. Why should I say all that when I can just say YOLO said she ...