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Excommunication.

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NanKate Wed 25-Jun-14 16:29:17

I have just read in the paper a letter suggesting that the Pope should excommunicate paedophile Roman Catholic priests as well as the Mafia.

That seems like a no- brainer to me, but will it happen ?

Agus Wed 25-Jun-14 20:39:41

Oh, I think I may be with sparky'on this one. They broke the rules, had their chance and they blew it....... Fire!

Sorry Phoenix it was actually for the grovelling one when she realised someone upstairs may be reading her posts! grin. Three hail Mary's jingle and 20 push ups for good measure.

Nonu Wed 25-Jun-14 20:39:03

JINGLE yr post 20.13
I concur so very , very much !!

she is a lovely person,!¬! as indeed you all are

Elegran Wed 25-Jun-14 20:36:45

Some heathens are more Christian than some Christians.

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 20:32:43

A lot of Christians aren't. Same as any other religion?

Elegran Wed 25-Jun-14 20:30:17

He thought he was very Christian!

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 20:29:07

hmm Christian (blame my dodgy arm)

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 20:28:27

Not Chritian

Elegran Wed 25-Jun-14 20:26:00

And what would be your view of a pastor whose punishment for a girl who becomes pregnant before her (already arranged and booked) wedding is to exclude her from communion for a year?

Ana Wed 25-Jun-14 20:20:48

That's the way I see it too, Galen.

(Thanks jingl smile)

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 20:16:50

That seems to be sorted then.
You can be banned from rituals, but not from God/heaven (if it existshmm)

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 20:13:32

Your posts will never be redundant on Gransnet Ana. smile

Ana Wed 25-Jun-14 20:10:29

A few posts in between Galen's and mine make my post redundant! smile

Ana Wed 25-Jun-14 20:09:17

I agree, Galen - how can one man (the Pope) tell God not to let a person into Heaven because he (the Pope) has decided it's a fit punishment. If you believe in that sort of thing, of course...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 20:07:03

Are we sure God comes into all this earthly mumbo-jumbo stuff?

Elegran Wed 25-Jun-14 20:06:26

They can excommunicate you from the Church but the New Testament insists that a new covenant was formed at that time, which is between God and individuals, not God and institutions. So no human, however exalted in the Church hierarchy, can excommunicate you from God. Sins, repentance and hopes of heaven are matters between an individual and God, with clergy acting merely as facilitators.

At least, that is my reading of it. i could be wrong.

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 20:03:35

jing
Can't be!
God is omniscient and omnipotent!
Ergo! Nowt is impossible to Her

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 19:58:33

I think, once it's been done on you Galen - that's yer lot!

So watch it!

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 19:57:35

wink

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 19:57:22

[highly offended emoticon] (aimed at Madame phoenix)

Galen Wed 25-Jun-14 19:55:57

The Swiss guards (behind the scenes) are a very highly trained military force. And I believe that they have well stocked armoury.

Does excommunication bar one from heaven on repentance?
I find that hard to believe from an all merciful God?

Anne58 Wed 25-Jun-14 19:29:19

PS jingl I do struggle to think of you in a state of grace, please take that in the spirit of which it was intended!

Anne58 Wed 25-Jun-14 19:27:51

Not sure if "brave" is the word I'd use, but must say I do have respect for him, and hope, if that makes sense?

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 25-Jun-14 18:59:26

Shove orf phoenix! It means I am. hmm

he is a brave man

Anne58 Wed 25-Jun-14 18:53:02

Oooh, does that mean I'm in a state of grace Agus ? smile

sparkygran Wed 25-Jun-14 18:50:38

I`m with Stangran get the Swiss Guard out of their silly uniforms and issue them with klashnikovs (that is certainly not spelt right - but do I care)