Banned for being single

No Soontobe, I lived in the UK all my adult life and brought up my children there born in early 70s, in the Midlands. Daughters and grandchildren still in the UK, Surrey and Midlands. We now live in Switzerland- where there are many many younger expats- crime rate varies with location, just as in the UK. But children are generally still allowed to be children- and elf and safety has not yet gone mad.

As said, kids are much more likely to be injured by parents terrible driving around school pick-ups- thand by kids being attacked by peadophiles on the way home- and also by the lack of balance and fitness, lack of risk awareness and common sense more freedom brings with it. Hope it makes sense.

more kids are likely to be hurt by parents driving and parking stupidly by the school - than attacked by paedophiles

yes, but it is not an either or situation.
I want kids safe from both.

I suppose though, that in a leisure park of this kind, it may be of comfort to parents to know that single men are not wandering around.We once lost our 4 year old daughter at Chessington [found her 10 mins later] but what a 10 minutes that was!
Of course people on their own are not going to be banned from the beach/cinema/shopping malls, why would they be? They are places that are as much for adults as children.
I don't feel too strongly either way in this debate, but feel most single people would understand that a Leisure Park may take this stand.

Are you living in the UK granjura?
And is the crime rate good where you are?

I do sympathise with single men (of whatever age) who are immediately suspect by their very singleness (the idea that something must be wrong with them) whereas as a woman I may be stared at for walking by myself (when between dogs) I doubt that I pose a threat (although now I am not so sure )
it is a form of prejudice that singletons are treated with suspicion because they are single (as well as being excluded from 'family things/discounts and the rest}
I do remember speaking to a little girl in a supermarket a while ago who nearly collided with my trolley and I jokingly commented to her mother that 'it was all right as I could not help but see her in her lovely red coat'
I was glared at and muttered about - what a sad state of affairs that natural friendliness can be so misconstrued
so maybe that was an isolated incident and the woman was paranoid but I would not vouchsafe to talk to any small children or comment on them in future.

Nope, Elf and safety gone mad- and mass hysteria about peadophiles and over cautioness, over protecting kids in a way that becomes dangerous in itself and counter-productive. Here, the words of one of them

:'How stupid, its a slippery slope to hell and I say that as a parent of two toddlers myself. What next, banning single people from beaches, public pools, supermarkets, Ikea on a Saturday afternoon etc..?

We need to get back to seeing the good in people and not being scared little sheep driven by media hysteria., - his words, not mine.

Here kids walk to school on their own and it is encouraged- more kids are likely to be hurt by parents driving and parking stupidly by the school - than attacked by paedophiles. Risk assessment and calculation totally losing common sense.

I'm not sure what your post indicates either, granjura. Are these young ex-pats implying that Britain is full of paedophiles and that's why they moved away?

Or because some leisure parks have put possibly over-zealous safeguards in place to protect children against abuse?

Either seems a strange reason!

As a single woman (now) who goes around a lot on my own, I hope they don't start banning me from places! Woman are, of course, less suspect than men, but in today's atmosphere of suspicion I am quite careful not to speak to small children for fear of being leapt upon by over anxious parents.

What a sad society we have become in some ways these days.

I should imagine that there are single men and widows and widowers who repeatedly enjoy a visit to their local park.
Not sure the single rule could or would ever be applied there.

I regularly go for walks alone around a local park, I have also been to the cinema on my own. Many of my friends either live too far away or have partners so are not able to come with me.

I was actually considering going to the park in question as it is around 8 miles from where I live but doubt I will now do so (although I understand they are now reconsidering their policy).

I see your point.

I suppose, from my non single pov, do single people go to cinemas by themselves very often?
Or parks like the one you have quoted in your op?

The reason I originally posted this was as a childless woman I have found myself excluded from many clubs and organisations throughout my adult life, now as a widow am I also to be excluded from a leisure park (which incidentally isn't just for children). I live next to a field and when it snows the village children play there with their toboggans, am I to sit in my house with the curtains closed while they play in that field?

The man who was banned is, in fact, a grandfather who has an interest in birds and wanted to see the falconry and birds of prey display which had been advertised at the park.

I am, of course, aware of the need to protect children from those that would harm them but I believe 95% of the abuse of children is done by a parent/relative/close friend of the family. A blanket ban on single people using a leisure park does nothing to protect children.

We are told we should go out and not isolate ourselves in our homes, yet if this ban were to be taken up by other facilities where are single people to go? Would we be stopped from attending cinemas, swimming pools and even shopping centres?

What sort of men are paedophiles generally.
Single men?

Arrgh! Another typo, as I meant to type 'it's not just a municipal park'.

typo! facy should read 'fact'.

Not sure how I feel on this question really. However, a single adult [Father, Uncle , Mother etc] could take a child into the Park [so that's ok] but could not enter on his or her own; Well, why would an adult on their own want to enter this Park? This Park is really for children, so the facy that an adult would want to go there is a bit suspect.There are plenty of cafes to go to without going into one of these places.It's not just a municipal park, where anyone can wander around, is it?I think, on reflection, that this leisure Park has the right policy.

I'm not going to bore you with criminal profiling or the details of a career working with sex offenders, soontobe, but paedophiles looking for children in parks don't tend to be domestic violence abusers who get off on their violence or family men who sexually assault children within the home. Their fantasies are acted out differently.

I don't think single women should be banned. There is very little danger from them.

Why does that make them move away from the UK?
I dont understand.

Not sure you are right there whenim64.

It is the sort of thing that is difficult to measure - the what would have happened things.

I've posted this on a Forum full of young British expats- and their reaction 'this is why we've moved away from the UK' !

This subject was discussed on the Matthew Wright show this am and he said that Ian Brady would not have been allowed in but he would have been, accompanied by Myra Hindley. That makes a nonsense of it all.

soontobe the lack of an outlet to abuse children or women behind closed doors, or towards a woman who is vulnerable, doesn't cause men to seek thrills elsewhere by trying to target children outdoors in places like parks. Different triggers and ranges of attraction altogether.

If you read the OP carefully, petallus, you'll see that the ban is against all single adults, male and female.

I notice it was a single man who was banned. Do we know whether single women are also banned?

About ten percent of paedophiles are women and most of those are under the influence of a man.