Junk food warnings-"not for young children"

Aw shucks! I was just going to congratulate soon on a brilliant diversion. Hey ho.

I agree, janea, salt is not worth worrying about. Neither are animal fats. One of these days (I live in hope) government will just shut the flip up about the oughts and ought nots of food.

As a child I used to like spilling a little salt and then dabbing it up bit by bit with a damp finger. All my kids have done the same at various points in their lives. It makes me think of those elephants who go through dark caves, bumping their heads on the way, to get at the salt-laden rocks at the back. Like them, I think kids just know when they need a bit of salt and get on with it. Similarly, I had a craving for crisps while I was breast feeding. I'm convinced it was my body telling me I needed the salt. When I stopped B/F I stopped wanting crisps and stopped eating them.

Humans worry too much.

At first glance, I would say that Zoe is talking a lot of sense.

jingl if you look at Zoe Harcombe's website, you'll see that she recommends a low carb diet that's high in vegetables, and cooking proper food from scratch. She also speaks out against food manufacturers who fill their processed foods with too much added sugar and so on.
I'm sorry you're so scathing about her educational attainments. I would have thought she'd be well qualified to critique and comment on research papers.

Perhaps you'd like to share your own qualifications with us, and then we can decide whether your posts are responsible or not.

look. She's got a Cambridge degree - in maths and economics Oh, and a little MPhil in public nutrition. Keep going Zoe. You might become a real scientist someday. Might.

My God! Is that stupid woman hellbent on killing us all - one way or another?!

Irresponsible to put that article up IMO.

Thank you jane, and that reminds me that Alistair Darling admitted that the recommended number of units of alcohol per week was plucked out of the air and probably erred on the low side just to be safe!

I've been offline for a couple of days but just want to post this link for all those who worry about their salt intake - Zoe Harcombe on why it isn't a big deal and how the guidelines have apparently been plucked out of thin air.
www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/03/salt-awareness-week-10-things-to-be-aware-of/

Which means your GP got it wrong too.
Glad your DS is ok though.

I dont know who is in charge of threads, but if someone wants me to stop talking about this subject I will, as it doesnt have all that much to do with the original post.

I think most clued up Gps should have a reasonable idea if a mole looks dodgy, and enough knowledge to know when to refer on for a specialist opinion.
My DS had one on his back removed and biopsied a year or so ago as the GP was concerned. It was fortunately benign and it helps that he lives near a hospital that is a centre of excellence for Dermatology.

Good job we didn't have to pay back in the 50s when I had them all around my midriff. Not a pretty sight.

I had to have the wart removed as second doctor thought it should be removed right away, whereas first doctor together with a locum, said that if I wanted it removed, I would have to pay as it is now not done on the NHS.

Saw the specialist less than 2 weeks later. She doesnt think it is localised skin cancer. Said did I want it frozen off, or burnt off and sent to lab for diagnosis.
I asked her which would she do. She said, have it burnt off, so the lab will definitely say one way or anopther. I am awaiting her letter.

It definitely got me thinking about moles and warts being left. Who is to know if they may be skin cancer if 3 doctors and a consultant cannot say for sure?

Which brings me to the paying for treatment bit, which I was reading about this morning.
People getting into health problems when young, can in no way be guaranteed that health services are going to be all free in this country in a few years time.

I don't think you can start charging for treatment caused by people's own weaknesses. The obese are often the ones who could least afford to pay. It woulkd be wrong to penalise people for human weakness. We must keep a bit of compassion in the NHS.

Absent I haven't got a clue what you are going on about re overweight posters on here. Can you shut up about it refrain please as I have just weighed myself. Bloody holidays and cake!

Or rub the wart on a toad - unless you go for the opposite belief, that handling toads gives you warts.

I think if they are ordinary warts they vanish of their own accord in their own good time.

I have heard that if you put a piece of raw meat on a wart (organic of course, not a 'junk' beefburger ) then bury the meat in the garden the wart will go as the meat rots.

I would term 'junk food' as something with a lot of calories compared to the nutritional value. 'Clout' - they are appealing to children who have a great deal of 'pester power' - although some parents do, of course, remain immune.

An oncologist would know.

Mine was actually a wart, and the GPs disagreed with each other.
As they did when DH had moles.
Our GP surgery literally hasnt got a clue.

I live in a country where skin cancer is a major issue because we are directly under a large hole in the ozone layer and the sun, when it shines on us, is very fierce. Checking skin for changes and mole maps are quite common and it seems that it is quite clear when a maverick mole is a sign of skin cancer. (We do pay for GP appointments but not for essential surgery.) Just disliking a big hairy mole on your chin doesn't get free treatment.

I am going away from the op. I must stop.

Trouble is with mole removal, GPS dont know if they may be cancerous or not.

Sorry for the typos.

No on both counts.
Sorry, I am not making myself clear at all.
I am talking about the NHS starting to bring in charges in general.

Just did a quick Google and I saw that under the NHS you will be "usually" be charged for "cosmetic" nmole removal, i.e. non-essential mole removal, removal of moles that are not considered a health hazard. That does not strike me as unsreasonable.

Have you been told that moles are caused by bad diet?

I'm not sure I understand your question, soon? Do you mean what do I think of NHS advice about food? If so, then my answer is that I have no problem with NHS advice, but I insist that it is my choice, not someone else's, whether I follow that advice for myself and my children.