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nanamacatj Sat 23-May-15 06:09:41

DD was informed by school on Thursday that they are taking legal advice over whether they should give 8yr old boy insulin injections....My 8yr old grandson was recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and spent 48 hrs very poorly in hospital. Now his school are unable to have him back unless we go into school and inject him. Diabetes team have been in to do training and two members of staff are happy to administer but school administrators are being obstructive. Diabetes team say they have never experienced such an awkward school. Moving him is not an option as there are 3 other siblings who would also have to move. We are at our wits end here, any ideas anyone?

Maggiemaybe Wed 27-May-15 20:53:25

I don't know, trisher, but academies do seem to have a lot of autonomy. I think we'll regret the winding down of LEAs.

trisher Wed 27-May-15 10:40:47

Our local academy was looking to take over a feeder school, so the schoold have formed themselves into an association to stop this, Am I right in thinking as an academy they can refuse any child without giving a reason?

Maggiemaybe Wed 27-May-15 10:28:03

There are also some very powerful Academy Trusts now, controlling both secondary and primary schools. One at least has around 70 schools.

Katek Wed 27-May-15 10:13:19

In Scotland academies are senior schools operating under LA control. All our schools here in NE/Moray/Highlands tend to be called academies with only a few exceptions.

annodomini Wed 27-May-15 10:05:17

Two of my GSs are at a primary school that's part of a group academy, comprising two primary and one secondary school. I'm not sure how satisfactory it is as it's quite new and all seems to have been arranged without any local consultation. At least when grant maintained schools (remember them?) were introduced, we had parents' ballots.

trisher Wed 27-May-15 09:42:42

And they are completely independent, so they have moved out from the protection that the Education authority offers because it takes responsiblity for insurance matters. If they are a very new academy they are probably running round trying to sort everything out. Yet another reason why schools should stay under LEA control.

thatbags Wed 27-May-15 09:14:45

smile

Katek Wed 27-May-15 09:13:19

Thanks bags...that's clarified things. I had outlaws in the family as well-fab phrase!

Anya Wed 27-May-15 09:11:10

Yes, more and more are becoming academies, sadly.

GrannyTwice Wed 27-May-15 09:08:27

Quite a lot I think now

thatbags Wed 27-May-15 08:55:43

There are some primary school academies as well. I didn't know this until my son-out-law started teaching in one.

Katek Wed 27-May-15 08:50:14

I'm also having difficulty with the op's terminology. As I understand it academies are senior schools working out with LA control and taking pupils from 11 upwards-if this is the case then how is an 8 year old at an academy? Are there primary academies as well?

Anya Wed 27-May-15 06:15:22

Words are not different in an OSTED report about academies.

The OP could quite possibly be referring to the Governing Body, or to the HT and other Senior Managers. It would help if she could be more specific in her terminology

soontobe Tue 26-May-15 23:50:17

Or might she mean the Governing Body?
Or are words different in an academy?

Anya. I presume you mean KateK?

Anya Tue 26-May-15 23:18:20

Yes Bags schools are put in Special Measures as they are 'failing' and 'inadequate'. I'm not sure why the OP used the term 'administration' as it is more likely to be the management of the school which deals with such matters. Administration more usually applies to to secretarial support.

Anya Tue 26-May-15 23:14:58

Well said KatyK. I made the same points, several times, earlier in this thread, but gave up for obvious reasons.

soontobe Tue 26-May-15 22:51:28

You are using the word imagining, I am using the word suspect.

thatbags Tue 26-May-15 22:28:21

That is an assumption on your part, soon.

soontobe Tue 26-May-15 22:22:55

they dont want to give the insulin injections I mean

soontobe Tue 26-May-15 22:21:05

The school administrators are being obstructive. And are now seeking legal advice.
I suspect they dont want to have to do it, and are trying not to have to do it. Not sure they will be able to opt out though.

thatbags Tue 26-May-15 22:01:03

I'm not sure why schools are put into a category called Special Measures but I presume it's because things at the school are not working satisfactorily for whatever reasons. Now I'm imagining a scenario where part of the reason for Special Measures is that the school's admin was not good so they are taking extra special care to get the admin sorted out properly before they undertake the special pastoral care that the diabetic child needs, or maybe because the admin is not great it takes them longer.

Is that possible or is my imagination running riot?

It would be good to have some more detail from the OP.

Katek Tue 26-May-15 21:31:43

What I am is irrelevant. I agree with Gracesgran re OP and the school is clearly looking for time to sort out its procedures. Once these are in place (including the dread risk assessments) there should be no further issue.

soontobe Tue 26-May-15 20:20:21

The school is now an academy having been in special measures for two years.
The diabeties team say that they have never met such an awkward school.

If I was the op's DD, I would be finding out exactly which administrators. Not sure what I would do after that though.

durhamjen Tue 26-May-15 19:10:09

Yes, I agree, gracesgran.
There are over 200,000 type 1 diabetics in schools, so I would imagine almost every school would have at least one. It's not new. However, it might be new in that school, and definitely is with the OPs family.
Schools have coped with it in the past and will continue to do so.

Gracesgran Tue 26-May-15 18:45:53

Jen, just a thought but this thread was about someone else's problem. You have highlighted your own feelings and gone into detail about your own circumstances, because of this the focus has moved to you.

This may not be what you wanted but it is not surprising. Perhaps now is the time to move back to the original problem which I, personally, would say was more the OPs issue than the school's, which seemed to be going through fairly standard procedure.