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to think people should keep their shoes on in public rooms?

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janerowena Thu 02-Jul-15 14:57:59

Last night was choir practice for one of the choirs I belong to, a community choir of around 40. It was still around 32C in the shade at 7pm, but even so, the room we use to practise in is also used by many other clubs, and is carpeted. Many of the women and some of the men removed their shoes.

I just couldn't have done it. Partly because I think of all the other poor people who have to walk over the carpet after me, including crawling toddlers at playgroup (mud can be vacuumed up, after all, but not sweat) and partly because I wouldn't want my own feet to walk over the grime and grot of ages.

I had no idea I felt that way until last night!

Leticia Tue 07-Jul-15 10:21:28

I hate to think what is on people's bare feet then! I have never understood why people want me paddling around in bare feet rather than my sandals.

Anya Tue 07-Jul-15 07:17:18

In a recent study, researchers at the University of Arizona found nine different species of bacteria on people's shoes. These types of bacteria can cause infections in our stomachs, eyes and lungs.

The study also found bacteria live longer on our shoes than in other places. As we walk, we constantly pick up new debris that feeds the growth of more bacteria.

The researchers tested to see if bacteria on shoes would transfer to the tile floors in a house. More than 90 percent of the time it did. Carpeting harbors bacteria even more.

'GMA's' Test Results

"GMA's" test results were "dirtier than a toilet seat," said Jonathan Sexton, a research assistant at the University of Arizona's College of Public Health. "Toilet seats generally have 1,000 bacteria or less, and these are in the millions so there's a lot more bacteria here."

Anya Tue 07-Jul-15 07:12:09

Oh the link has broken .. will try again

Anya Tue 07-Jul-15 07:11:17

Yes, many modern mums are aware of the dangerous bacteria trampled into their carpets by street shoes, some of the deadly.

This short article says it all

Leticia Tue 07-Jul-15 06:57:26

Thank you Greyduster. flowers
On Mumsnet there are a whole lot of people who have shoes off rules in their house- so much so that I thought maybe I ought to offer, but I found in RL people were all telling me to keep them on.
It all seems rather Hyacinth Bucket to me- and thought she was supposed to be a joke!
I do of course take them off if I have been on a muddy walk or it is very wet etc.

Greyduster Mon 06-Jul-15 10:54:19

Leticia, if I am ever fortunate confused enough to be invited into your home, I will definitely not take off my shoes!grin

Jane10 Mon 06-Jul-15 09:06:49

This taking your shoes off indoors really didn't happen when I was young (unless muddy wellies). It seems to have come in with the increase in fitted carpets a few decades ago. Lino, wood floors and rugs were what people we knew had. The possibility of people taking shoes off on arrival simply never arose.
I like to put my slippers on when I get home but that's for comforts sake. I also have a hoover and clean the carpets!

Leticia Mon 06-Jul-15 06:30:59

I think it very rude to override the home owner. If they ask you to take them off I do, but I expect the same courtesy back and them to keep them on if asked - not for it to be assumed that really I want them off! I don't.

Greyduster Sun 05-Jul-15 13:07:01

If someone says "oh there's really no need to take off your shoes", I usually do it anyway. I don't wear shoes in my house, even though we have wood floors. Why should I do it in anyone else's? I consider it a courtesy. When we visit my oldest friend, she always says it. She has pale oatmeal carpets, and I am sure she wants them to stay that colour. I would.

thatbags Sat 04-Jul-15 18:26:32

If the floors are also warm I have no problem with any of that. Actually, I have no problem with it anyway, but I do have cold feet even in carpeted houses. #have-to-carry-slippers-with-me

Mind you, I keep forgetting, most of you live in much warmer climes than I do. That probably explains it.

BTW, most people, and certainly the ones who live here, take their shoess off in my house too. I do. But I put something else on my feet to keep them warm.

grannyonce Sat 04-Jul-15 16:45:49

as I said above - I don't have a problem with no outside shoes in my house as I have hard floors - but this is not some overzealous fussiness or abhorrance of dirt
people walk through all kinds of things on their way to my doorstep - dog muck being just one - do I want those spread all over my carpet/ floor
so shoes off in the hall and my floors are kept clean so that walking in bare/stockinged feet is a pleasure. smile

Leticia Sat 04-Jul-15 16:35:14

I really hope that you would keep them on if the home owner protests Greyduster - if I protest it is because I really mean it! I don't want you wandering around without your shoes.

Anya Sat 04-Jul-15 06:50:02

Love that idea Bags grin

janerowena Fri 03-Jul-15 22:28:56

grin I have heard tales of people not always returning to the same pair of flip flops they left!

thatbags Fri 03-Jul-15 19:41:10

You have to in Thailand. Sit in public rooms with lots of bare feet, I mean. Public rooms such as dental clinic waiting rooms, hospital dittos, etc. People put their shoes flip flops in the queue and then go and sit down to wait their turn. Lateral thinking. Like it grin

Judthepud2 Fri 03-Jul-15 19:37:35

I'm taking a different view of this! It depends on the feet and the owner! The idea of sitting in a public room with lots of bare, not necessarily fragrant, feet is a bit nauseating wink

All my DCS insist on the shoes off rule in their homes. But oddly enough don't think to apply it in mine.

thatbags Fri 03-Jul-15 15:42:09

I don't think a bit of sweat in the carpet would bother children. Again, going back a bit to when washing facilities were minimal, people lived and survived with a much greater exposure to their own and other people's sweat than we do.

It just seems a non-problem to me, janer, though I understand it bothers you and sympathise accordingly.

Anya Fri 03-Jul-15 15:34:11

In farming and mining communities, going back in time, it was always the custom to take off muddy/dirty boots and leave them outside or in the porch. The housewives of yesteryear would not have tolerated extra work cleaning floors with the limited resources they had at their disposal.

In Muslim household and the mosque you would be expected to remove your shoes too.

janerowena Fri 03-Jul-15 14:22:33

thatbags yes, my kids (and I) always crawled around in muck outside, but I always had big lobbies and hallways to get them into cleaner clothes.

I keep a supply of soft washable slippers always to hand in case visitors want them, purely because some friends do automatically ask what to do the first time they come round - as do I. I always ask, shoes on or off? It's the done thing in Scandinavia to take your shoes off, so people there are used to carting slippers or making sure they don't have holey socks.

But it wasn't the house aspect of it that worried me, it was the thought of the toddler group crawling around on the floor the following day and being subjected to smelly sweaty carpet. Dust and dirt from shoes would be vacuumed up each morning by the cleaner, but something like 20 people took their shoes off last night. It's not something I have come across before on a public carpeted space.

thatbags Fri 03-Jul-15 13:13:18

I taught my kids to take their shoes off when they came in but that was because I thought it was better for their growing feet to be bare.

My mother was told by her mother to put her shoes on as soon as she got out of bed. Their bedrooms had cold lino floors and no central heating which grandma thought would not be good for her children's feet.

thatbags Fri 03-Jul-15 13:10:29

Back a bit people would only have one pair of shoes and only slippers/house shoes if they were lucky. Even if they had wanted to walk around at home bare foot or in socks, houses, and especially floors, were not warm enough. We have turned into a bunch of fusspots with our no shoes in the house rules and can only do it because our houses are well heated and the floors insulated with carpets quite often.

Fussing minding whether people wear shoes or not indoors is a problem caused by relative luxury/high living standards.

Greyduster Fri 03-Jul-15 12:21:32

We always take our shoes off in the house, and in anyone's house we are visiting, even when they protest we need not. I don't insist on it in my house, but most people we know are courteous enough to do it. When we are walking, we carry boot covers for if we call in at a pub - it's such a pain to take off walking boots and then have to put them back on again. I don't like sitting in a pub in my socks, eating lunch! Sometimes, however, it's the only way you are going to get any lunch!

annodomini Fri 03-Jul-15 10:09:36

My kitchen is full of shoes that I've kicked off at the back door - or it was until last night when I tidied them up for a change. I usually change into my slippers or crocs.

Bez Fri 03-Jul-15 09:37:37

I always change into other footwear when I get home unless already wearing flipflops - I have several levels of flip flops - cheap ish sports shop ones for everyday at home and better Havianas for outings! Plus some with sort of wedgie heels such a Wavewalk or Fitflops - I cannot wear shoes without socks or stocking sort of things in the summer as my toes get rubbed raw- hence the flipflops. I do have a nice comfy pair of Marks sandals but the straps give me itchy feet when really hot although I do put up with that if driving. I often have bare feet indoors and on the patio - and there is nothing like a nice cool soak or spray with the hose bit of the shower! In the winter I tend to wear flat boots and always socks so am fine if I take them off in any house -and at home I wear fleecy lined boot slippers.
When we have guests for dinner etc I do change into my best flip flops!!! grin

annodomini Fri 03-Jul-15 08:46:20

absent, you've reminded me that I have sometimes seen women in New Zealand walking barefoot in the street. These weren't women who appeared to be poor or deprived in any way - perhaps a bit hippy.