Healthy eating, but skipping rope ban in the play ground.

Faye that seems like a joyless school.

I did get rather frustrated with dd when she ranted on and on about dgs's teacher not being strict enough because they let him off of bad behaviour when he turned it around and then behaved. Not quite sure what she wanted. Considering that she grew up with positive reinforcement, I'm not quite sure why she cannot do it herself with her own child. But, we won't go there.

It is interesting that the schools push for healthy lunches, then hand out sweets as rewards, and inhibit a lot of physical play on the playground. It hardly makes sense.

It's a very rigid school, gillybob never anything nice happens, most of the teachers appear to be dishing out impositions as well, they suck any enjoyment the children might get. Many families have taken their children out this year.

They are finishing at their school in a week and the best thing out of all this they are moving and leaving Brisbane. The boys will be going back home with me (their parents are following when packed and ready) and going to the small country school with their cousin and they are very, very excited (so am I). The school is lovely, there are 52 children and three teachers, the Principal and a teacher's aide. I actually can't believe how things have unfolded. I am counting the days, my other GS who is also seven is so excited his cousins are going to be at his school and the teacher said the two seven year olds can sit together. Two schools couldn't be more different.

That's shocking Faye . It doesn't sound like a school at all more like a prison camp or a detention centre.

Poor children. Is it possible to move schools?

Things have changed drastically (for the worse) in 30 years though anno . At one time an accudent was just that, an accident but now thanks to scum lawyers we have this "where there is blame there is a claim" culture, making schools very wary of any activity where there might be even the slightest chance of a child hurting themselves.

I should add that he was in the first year of secondary school when the accident happened.

I should add that he was in the first year of secondary school when the accident happened.

30 years ago, DS2 broke his leg playing football in the lunch hour. Did I complain? Did the school ban football? Not a bit of it. In those days, it was 'just one of those things'.

I have never seen a school like my GS's school in Brisbane. Parents are not welcome in the classrooms, ever. The children sit outside on the ashphalt in the morning, while the teachers organise the things that need doing that day. It might be Brisbane but it's cold and windy on winter mornings, sitting on the ground and the ashphalt never looks very clean. Youngest GS's teacher comes along at the last minute so parents never get a chance to speak to her. GS7 gets a lot of orange lights (warnings) and red lights (harsher warnings). He got an orange light at the beginning of the year because every now and again he would lightly tap his stomach usually about three times. He would do this when he was anxious, which is most of the time as he says he is worried about getting into trouble. One of the orange lights this week was because he couldn't see where his book was, it hadn't fallen on the floor behind him. DIL went to see his teacher (by appointment) and was shocked to see GS's change. He was very quiet and withdrawn with his head down when his teacher was there. After the interview DIL sat outside with GS as they still had five minutes before the bell. A teacher came along and told her they didn't want parents and children sitting there (not very far from GS's class) and she would have to move along.

GS9 has always been very unhappy at this school, he got a RTR because he went to speak to his younger brother. That is not allowed and RTR means Reaponsible Thinking Room and the child will have to spend their lunchtime writing out why they need to be responsible. He worked very hard on a project last year. DIL herself a teacher was very impressed with the effort he put in. She was shocked when the teacher said it doesn't matter how much work he did, everyone gets a C. This year his teacher said GS needs to put in more effort.

Neighbour's DS 8 threw a stick and accidently hit a girl and was suspended for three days. He really is a nice child who plays often with GSs. He told his mother after school one day he was hopeless and wished he was dead. His mother didn't know at the time GS had seen him sobbing at school during the day.

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Healthy eating as a general school topic is fine; but making children (especially girls) over-conscious of their weight and how they look is brewing up trouble. There has to be a sensible balance.

As to the skipping rope - I am glad that got sorted!

At a nearby school, the playground has lovely wooden benches all round so that the children can sit and chat if they want to. Suddenly the benches were put out of bounds because one child got a splinter in his bottom and the school was worried that they might be sued - so no benches till they have all been sanded down and sealed. A bit over the top I feel!

At our local primary, the children do a great deal of outdoor lessons and forest school and mostly they sit on upturned sections of tree trunk!

My goodness, biker, if my GS and his classmates were not allowed to play football during any break they would go into a decline! If they haven't got a ball to kick, they'll kick a pine cone around, or a ball of rolled up paper - anything they can find, in fact, that can serve to be kicked, except stones, which are strictly off limits.

I used to the the Healthy Eating Coordinator when I was a teacher. I argued constantly that we should not be using the word 'obese' to the children and that healthy eating should taught in a way that did not link it to weight but to health. I also insisted that there were no bad foods. In fact I pointed out eating nothing but lettuce was just as unhealthy as eating nothing but sugar.

I hated the way children were made to feel guilty about what they ate and worried about how they looked. I was supported in this by some of the staff....one bodybuilder was incredibly fit (physically and to look at lol) but was technically obese due to his bmi...but others wouldn't budge and even used the fact that I'm a BBW to suggest I didn't take the health of the children seriously In fact the opposite was the truth ....I cared deeply about the children's physical and mental health. Being scared of foods doesn't help either.

GS school..they cannot play ball games at play time, no footballs, no small balls and the children are told not to run around in a morning just before the bell goes!! no wonder GS comes home frustrated sometimes.

Oh they most definitely are in my DGD's school Bellanonna . My eldest actually chooses her best knickers for handstand and cartwheel days !

I wonder if they're still allowed to do handstands in the playground?

It is a typical over the top reaction isn't it MiniMouse ?

It worries me that at 7 and 9 mine have started to look at calories/fat/sugar/carbohydrate on everything. yesterday they were telling their little brother off for having a tiny bit of sugar in a cup of milky tea. Why should they be worrying about this at their tender age?

Surely the schools should encourage physical activities for children instead of brain washing them about calories. Worrying that young girls will take it too far and mine do so much sport/exercise that they DO need extra calories.

"If inappropriate material is found on the device it is up to the teacher to decide whether they should delete that material, retain it as evidence (of a criminal offence or a breach of school discipline) or whether the material is of such seriousness that it requires the involvement of the police."

I find it worrying that one person, ie the teacher, has the authority to delete what may be considered by others to be 'evidence'. After all, the person may not be aware that there could be history and any evidence would help convict whoever sent, or induced the child to send, inappropriate material.

Since when was it appropriate for an extremely fit, skinny seven year old girl to examine the calories, fat,sugar,carbs etc. on food packets?

Gillyb I'm with you on that! I have a GD like yours, plus she is already very aware of what she can and can't eat because of food intolerances. The last thing she needs is the school drumming it into her that she should count her calories etc. She is built like a pipecleaner! I'm all in favour of children being taught about healthy eating, but not to that extent.

Why is it assumed that, because a child may have a biscuit/cake etc in their lunchbox, that they eat unhealthily? My GD is so extremely active and athletic that she would need a biscuit or cake. Also, the school doesn't know what food is provided at home and that lunchtime cake/biscuit may well be the only 'banned' food that they have in a day. It would be more appropriate for a very active child to eat it at lunchtime to keep them going through the afternoon, rather than waiting until they got home after school.

I am very glad to hear that there is no skipping rope ban, it would be ridiculous. I organised skipping training sessions for staff precisely to encourage skipping in the playground. On the subject of confiscating property, the Dept of Education guidance says
"Where a member of staff finds an item which is banned under the school rules they should take into account all relevant circumstances and use their professional judgement to decide whether to return it to its owner, retain it or dispose of it. "
This is the advice given following a search, but presumably could apply to any item banned under the school rules. Obviously it would be excessively heavy-handed to destroy a skipping rope, but I think people should be aware what powers a school has. This is the guidance regarding electronic devices found:
"Where the person conducting the search finds an electronic device they may examine any data or files on the device if they think there is a good reason to do so. Following an examination, if the person has decided to return the device to the owner, or to retain or dispose of it, they may erase any data or files, if they think there is a good reason to do so.
• The member of staff must have regard to the following guidance issued by the Secretary of State when determining what is a “good reason” for examining or erasing the contents of an electronic device:
• In determining a ‘good reason’ to examine or erase the data or files the staff member must reasonably suspect that the data or file on the device in question has been, or could be, used to cause harm, to disrupt teaching or break the school rules.
• If inappropriate material is found on the device it is up to the teacher to decide whether they should delete that material, retain it as evidence (of a criminal offence or a breach of school discipline) or whether the material is of such seriousness that it requires the involvement of the police. "

Oh I agree with your there jings a whole other rant !

Since when was it appropriate for an extremely fit, skinny seven year old girl to examine the calories, fat,sugar,carbs etc. on food packets?

If this carries on my 2 DGD's will be anorexic by the time they are 12-13 !!

Trying to explain that they NEED some sugar to give them energy. Infact mine do so much physical activity they need more sugar, carbs than most. Having said that Gracie (the younger of the two)can eat 2 bowls of cereal, a croissant and a cup of tea (no sugar now) for breakfast and still ask for a banana for on the way to school. She's as skinny as a pin !

I think anyone who has care of children at any time, should have proper training.

I also worry that our children are being made food neurotic.

Good! And I hope your DGD gets her skipping ropes back, too!

Playground definitely not visible from my DGC's school staffroom. anno In fact I would suspect the (newly built) school has been designed to make them as far apart as possible !

UPDATE on Skippygate.

DiL spoke to school who said there was no ban of skipping ropes, infact they encourage ALL physical activity. They said that they would speak to the dinner nannies (collectively) and remind them of this. They asked who the child was and DiL said she would rather not say but then reluctantly told the secretary Gracie's name. The secretary said "Oh, she is a lovely sweet little girl, now you have made ME very mad".

DiL said she didn't want anyone to get into any trouble but is happy that the dinner nannies are being put right !

I wonder how we all survived playtimes when there could be half a dozen skipping games (with the long rope) going on all at the same time in the playground - visible from the staffroom window, I grant you.

Well they hadn't been last night FarNorth. She was quite upset about it too.

I hope the skipping ropes have been returned to your DGD? The school is not entitled to take property and keep it.