Jeremy Corbyn

Cutting your coat according to your cloth isn't always the answer. Fine if you've a habit of overspending or just not taking care but if your basic outgoings are more than your hard-earned income, what then? I talk from experience - back in the 90s when the mortgage rate hit 15% my mortgage was more than my monthly pay cheque. Raising two kids alone, trying to juggle work with parental responsibilities - no tax credits or extra help in those days - every day was a struggle. Do you buy food, pay a bill or the motgage or shoes for a growing child? Some days I juggled bus fare for school or bus fare for work? It's not always a case of pull your socks up and do better.

Not...... A red tie?

He does scrub up rather nicely in his blue suit, pale blue shirt and red tie! Think he might even have had his beard trimmed. Hope Her Madge impressed!!!

You mean less food and don't pay the rent for four years

By cutting their coat according to their cloth, I suppose, like many of us do.

And with the welfare cuts now rosesarered how will the low paid live for the next four & half years , not forgetting the £11 could be hot air

If it really does go up to £9 an hour then that is great news for low paid workers, call it what you want, minimum wage/ living wage.Why moan about it?

The labour government brought in the minimum wage, the Tories fought against it with claims it would cause businesses to close .

The government has now given the minimum wage a new name - a living wage , the minimum wage is now £6.70 per hour , in 2020 it will be £9 per hour - perhaps , those on the minimum wage who receive benefit support will lose this now, and these are the hard working families so dear to this government

We will have to wait and see, there are four years to go until the next election,their promise was something like £9 by then.

Anyway, roses, you were wrong about the government and the living wage.
A really good living wage?
On the news now all the government can say is what they are going to save, not about the poor being made poorer. Three million families to be made poorer. That's very noble of them.

Tell that to all the people who are going to lose £1300 next April.

We got a Tory Government ( let's be honest here) because Labour left us in huge debt over five years ago.The Conservatives together with the Lib Dems
Did a pretty good job of turning things around.At the last election, voters still didn't trust Labour with the economy, and saw things were getting a bit better so voted the same way again.All except for the daft Lib Dems,who had so enjoyed being out of power so they could make up what policies suited them, who now decided to punish their own party for helping the country get back on it's feet, and in so doing, wiped them out.So we have aConservative Government ruling on it's own.I have been a Lib Dem myself and think it's a damn shame, but there you are.If we continue doing well economically, then no doubt the Conservatives will be voted in again at the next election as well!

No it isn't.

The Labour Party brought in the minimum wage. The Tories and company bosses were completely against it, and said there would be lots of job losses. There weren't.

The living wage is a misnomer. The minimum wage would be as high next year. Osborne has just taken over an idea, called it the national living wage.
It is below the living wage now.

www.livingwage.org.uk/

These companies pay the real living wage, not a pretend one. At the moment it is £7.85. Osborne is putting it at £7.20 next April.
The minimum wage at the moment is £6.85, so calling £7.20 next April a living wage is just ridiculous.

Strange how easily people can be taken in. That's how we've got a Tory government.

Yep,I accept that rosesarered, which is why I think it's good that Jeremy Corbyn and like minded colleagues are having a go at pushing for change.

Hang on a minute..... Until five years ago we had a Labour Government,in power for a long time, and what did they do for the living wage?Think About it. They could have brought it in , but they didn't.The Tories, like them or loathe them depending on your politics, are aiming towards a really good living wage over the next few years.The tax credits could have been handled better, and brought in slowly as Frank Field suggested, but should be phased out altogether, and firms pay your wage, not the Government (Us.)

Personally, I think the Danes have got it right. As I understand it everyone pays a huge amount of tax (50% I think) but can expect a reasonable and realistic amount of government support in return when needed. In the public sector salaries are pretty average, even amongst the professionals. But I guess it's easy to persuade a small country of around 5m to pull together for the greater good. Here, you can be a self-serving Lord, sign in as often as possible then walk out the other door and still get paid your £300+ daily allowance for (non) attendance at the House of Lords without feeling shame BUT the poorest workers aren't granted the basic LIVING wage as defined by our government. If wanting that to change is loony or adolescent, then I'm both.

Or as adolescent.

I have used the term 'adolescent', trisher, but not in the way you seem to have interpreted it. I don't see the having of left wing views as a problem at all.

Interesting that several people have used the term "adolescent" to describe those who have left wing beliefs. I wonder why it is adolescent to believe that a more equal society where the weakest are supported, the wealthiest contribute properly and working people are treated well, is something to strive for? Can it be that they know that actually these are valid beliefs, and belittling them is the only way they can deal with them?
I don't particularly care if Corbyn is good for pensioners. Given the chance he could improve conditions for the poorest and weakest, whatever their age.

The right attitude, certainly. But even opinions as to what that is seem to differ these days.

DMs at the cenotaph isn't a problem as long as they are black and polished I'd've thought. It's what I'll be wearing at my local parade. Unless I'm mistaken (and I probably am) we haven't had any uproar about who wore what since dear old Michael Foot. Personally, I think turning up with the right attitude mattered more than what you wear, or what colour poppy come to think of it, but that's just me.

Hope he doesn't come over here again .....

Donald Trump for sure.

Ooh, who's got a comb over?