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Jeremy Corbyn

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oldbony Thu 24-Sept-15 16:42:27

Does anyone believe that he will be good for us pensioners?

Anniebach Sun 18-Oct-15 18:34:35

Best not to miss out a comb over

Ana Sun 18-Oct-15 18:30:11

And what colour poppy they're all wearing, of course.

rosequartz Sun 18-Oct-15 18:26:18

Nothing that exciting, except that he wears Doc Marten's and was once an aspiring rock star.

Will he wear his Doc Marten's to the Cenotaph? Riveting question, the tabloids will be on to that one! grin

Photos of feet, vests, hair, perma-tans, hidden beer bottles hmm

rosequartz Sun 18-Oct-15 18:22:48

As I knew nothing much about Tim (and his grin) I thought I would have a look:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/11741946/24-things-you-didnt-know-about-Tim-Farron.html

Anniebach Sun 18-Oct-15 18:20:35

So Libs dems are not to the right of labour? Oh well

LullyDully Sun 18-Oct-15 17:48:20

As a matter of principle we should vote according to policies rather than through habit. My parents always voted the same. We used to say they would vote for that certain party if they hung a Kipper up.

I do try to consider my vote. Usually means I end up as Liberal Democrat. Sadly not this year.

As for Jeremy......Not keen.

Elegran Sun 18-Oct-15 17:37:23

At the risk of getting into trouble for referencing another thread, here is a parallel.

Someone informed us that doubting and researching the validity of any statement in the Bible lets Satan in to seize our souls, and that several Christian denominations were inspired by Satan for the same purpose.

Anyone who agrees with that 100% is obviously in the same camp as the poster, but what of those who don't agree 100%? Is it just as obvious that they are in Satan's camp?

thatbags Sun 18-Oct-15 16:06:18

Interesting people interest interested people about covers it, I think. Corbyn's interesting. #plainspeak

rosequartz Sun 18-Oct-15 15:58:03

Corbyn seems to interest those on the right

He should be of interest to everyone who has a vote surely?

Anyway, if we can't poke a little fun at our politicians, left, right, centre wherever they are on the political spectrum, then we must be living in a police state.

Jeremy and his vest, Nigel and his pint, David (has he got a spray tan or not?), Boris and his hair, Tim and [thinks] (don''t know enough about him yet)

thatbags Sun 18-Oct-15 15:54:34

The "if you're not with us you're agin us" is a very childish simplistic stance which I find quite surprising in people one would have thought were old enough to know better, but that is essentially seems to be the stance of some of the Corbyn fans on here.

thatbags Sun 18-Oct-15 15:43:32

No, you don't ab. I'll add you to my mental list of gransnetters who make silly assumptions about other gransnetters. Not being quite sure about Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party is not right wing; it is not being quite sure about Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party and that is all.

You can extrapolate what you like from that but the odds are that your extrapolations will be wrong.

Grannyknot Sun 18-Oct-15 15:42:59

elegran well said. The vitriol from some quarters of the Labour Party at the Government - and shouting epithets like "Tory scum" - is very off-putting too. Not very encouraging to new voters.

rosequartz Sun 18-Oct-15 15:39:24

I am listening to the views of staunch Labour family members, to the left but not extreme left of the party, not just reading posts on here.
They are disappointed and struggling to find something positive to say (and they are most definitely not Blairites.)

Elegran Sun 18-Oct-15 15:37:58

You simply do not know how anyone votes - or how many are influenced against any particular party by the proselytising of enthusiastic supporters.

rosesarered Sun 18-Oct-15 14:42:08

As I am a Lib Dem voter ( not much left of them now though) then I hardly qualify for the title, and you simply do not know how a lot of others vote who post on here, so do not make lazy assumptions.

Anniebach Sun 18-Oct-15 14:39:01

No one on the right here rosesarered ? Oh well

rosesarered Sun 18-Oct-15 14:19:18

Anniebach, I really don't think that anyone ' on the right' as you put it, is even posting on here! unless you mean on the right of the Labour Party?
The Corbynites are so defensive!

Anniebach Sun 18-Oct-15 14:06:17

Corbyn seems to interest those on the right, we have had his vest, his bike, his beard, his diet, his autumn holiday , really serious stuff !

rosesarered Sun 18-Oct-15 13:43:01

That's a good summing up of the situation surrounding the Labour leadership election, Anya.
He seems to be enjoying his time in the sun, but IMO can't possibly be there for long.However politics is ( like soccer) a 'funny old game' and as such, subject to all kinds of bizarre happenings.
So much will depend on the next few years, will we vote to leave the EU?
Will more and more people be employed,will all kinds of house building continue to burgeon( so much already where I live). Then there are the unknowns, the scandals, threats of war, etc.

Anya Sun 18-Oct-15 09:08:28

Less than 1% of the electorate have membership of the main political parties. And many Labour MPs did not vote for Corbyn as leader.

It is impossible to know how many Labour voters who are not party members support his policies or would have voted for him in an election.

Politics was due for a shake up. There were no real personalities any more. This was the appeal of the likes of Farrage, at least he was 'different' but many balked at what he stood for.

Then along came Nicola Sturgeon, a breath of fresh air, straightforward and seemingly honest, and the SNP swept out Labour from Scotland in the election, while Labour voters in England saw their party defeated.

When the leadership election then offered up someone as different as Jeremy Corbyn, no wonder party members voted him in. He broke the mould and his outspoken difference was what they wanted instead of the usual suited, mealy mouthed, placating politicians who've gone be before.

Love him or hate him or bemused and still making yiur mind up, at least politics is more interesting these days.

thatbags Sun 18-Oct-15 09:04:38

Likewise. As I said yesterday, I'm not yet convinced that he is or will be a good party leader (actually I said political leader). If his behaviour as a leader is convincing over a longer time than we've had so far, I'll be convinced.

His appointment and the aura around it and him are interesting. Time will tell whether the interestingness leads to anything notable.

M0nica Sun 18-Oct-15 08:27:07

I think the reaction to the election of Jeremy Corbyn has been way over the top.

He is a maverick (look at the number of times he has refused to support his party on issues), a conviction politician voted into leadership by the mass votes of party members and activists. A political party leader such as we have not had before, but it doesn't therefore automatically follow that he will be a disaster, either as a leader of the opposition or even a prime minister.

To a certain extent all those decrying his election and dismissing his talents are actually helping to make him more credible because any time he does get something right it will be such a surprise his popularity rating will go up far higher than is justified.

I am reserving my opinion on him until he has been in position for at least six months.

thatbags Sat 17-Oct-15 17:02:31

Anyway, the point is, you cannot know, especially about 'most', unless people have specifically said (I know some people on GN have said how they vote) so it's a silly thing to say and saying such a thing says more about you than any of the supposed 'most' you referred to.

thatbags Sat 17-Oct-15 16:59:59

I realise that, dj. Still curious as to how you have labelled me.

rosequartz Sat 17-Oct-15 16:19:19

Most is quite a lot though

As there are a number of people who do or have proclaimed to be left-wing JBC supporters on this thread, that leaves the 'rather less than most' wondering if they are included or not. hmm