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soapsoanelive Mon 29-Feb-16 20:35:47

Help: my daughter fell in love with the son of a self made (200 million pound turnover) millionaire. They fell in love when they were sixteen and it never crossed my mind how complicated that legacy would be in the future.

It did start with the wedding: I thought it was funny that although we had put half towards (one) of the venues, paid for the flowers and (one) of the modes of transport, and paid for the dress, that, apparently, I heard his parents had spent £50,000. It didn't look that expensive, but then, you never know. My partner did the photography and I made a book, a fairy tale of their romance which culminated in their meeting at Glastonbury. I thought how beautiful.

It was sad that apparently when my new son in law took pics of me and my partner and my daughter that for some reason they were overexposed while the photos of his mum and dad bloomed out. At the time it didn't occur to me that the reason rich people are rich is not because they are inherently superior it's that they don't give credit fairly or equally. It didn't occur to me that my new son in law was under massive pressure from his parents.

I began to realise as time went on that they weren't interested in me, they wanted my daughter but it wasn't just that they wanted to alienate her from me. They were always nice: during my daughter's and their son's courtship they'd taken them on holiday, going around the world, I bought little presents, like pocket tour guides for their whole family, thinking how lovely, wanting to participate. When they were in their post graduate time they offered to buy a flat that they could live in: wow I thought, how wonderful, how lovely. When it came to their marriage, before the marriage they said that they wanted to buy a property for them: it would be their gift, a living legacy. They bought a half a million pound house for them: at the time I thought, wow, this is amazing.

But it really isn't amazing. Although my daughter and my son in law are brilliant, clever and accomplished and have good jobs the house that thy've lived in for the past six years still belongs to the company. It hasn't been given to them (yet) and they're kind of living rent free in a property that his mother has controlled since they moved in: repairs, decorating, interior design and furnishing are all 'don't worry yourselves about that: we'll get someone in to do that'. It's a kind of weird control: they don't own the house and the big holidays are all determined by his parents. So they aren't independent and it doesn't look as if they'll ever be independent unless they stand up to his parents. I have gone up to see them every week since my grandson was born, he's now four and it's been so lonely for me: his parents have paid for an expensive nursery (so they can both go back to work-it seemed 'kind' but now I think it's about control). They were both studying for their phds: all was smooth and calm when my son in law completed his: when it came to my daughter completing hers my sister in law decided that urgent house repairs (including scaffolding) needed to be done, decorating re carpettting etc. This has caused real problems between me and my daughter as it seems that it can't be discussed fairly. When she was finishing her phd I helped her with her footnotes and bibliography. It was a massive job and she said 'let's meet up after the viva, just you and I'. We were supposed to meet the following Sunday. What actually happened was that I didn't hear from my daughter until a text message alerting me to the fact that his parents would also be there. It was weird and arriving to meet them I felt that they were trying to prevent us from being alone. My daughter loves her husband with all her heart but actually, he's a brat (very responsible and upright and conforming but terrified of his parents and jealous of my relationship with my daughter because his parents are so invasive). My relationship with my daughter is now false and hypocritical: I love them but I hate the way they're being made to live. I've tried to raise this with my daughter but we always fall out.

Last week was the final straw: I'd gone over (an hour each way on the train plus bus rides, and nursery pick up, as you do). My daughter had put together a hamper for mother's day. I was surprised and pleased until I realised that the mother's day hamper had been put together to buy me off- they were all going skiing the following week and noone had bothered to let me know in advance, even though they'd known for a couple of months. I've always had a strong and direct relationship with my daughter but little by little her husband's family are prioritising their lives (and not needing to demean themselves by offering me the courtesy of letting me know that they wanted to go skiing. I wouldn't have minded: I don't mind but it's the exclusion and the sneakiness that's driving a wedge between my daughter. They have two other children (a daughter who is incredibly bright and who has had a really wild few years before 'settling down' with another millionaire's son (who'd caused her major problems in the past). The other son has learning difficulties and has a girlfriend who also has learning difficulties: he's been posting on facebook about how sad he is because he isn't allowed to take his girlfriend skiing. It's like my relationship is like a servant: a function and I am not permitted to think that our past: the way I buy, cook, think, live bears no relation to the life they live. The problem is it isn't their choice it's defined for them by his parents.

Help! What can I do to make this better?

obieone Tue 01-Mar-16 17:52:23

It is not about competing.
It does remind me a bit about the Royal Family, but in a lot of ways worse.
Gilded cage, but you dont own the cage or much of your life either.

They could come out of the cage, but with what and to what? And he is probably quite conditioned by now.

Tegan Tue 01-Mar-16 17:32:27

I don't think it's about competing but about values.

ginny Tue 01-Mar-16 17:18:26

I agree with radicalnan.
The original post is quite confusing.
soapsanelive is lucky enough to have a DD and SIL that includes her and a DGS she is able to see. Her DD is obviously very comfortable and has not indicated any problems. I do feel that the main problem is that the OP has trouble accepting that the In Laws are wealthy and that she can't 'compete' with them.

Count your blessings soapsanelive many on here would love to be in your position.

obieone Tue 01-Mar-16 17:12:05

I think I understand this. I dont have experience of it though.
In essences, I agree with you that it your DD and sil are being controlled. Incredably controlled.

Is there a part of you that thinks that if it all blows up, they could both be left with nothing. Literally nothing?

Tegan Tue 01-Mar-16 17:00:53

Good post radicalnan.

radicalnan Tue 01-Mar-16 16:26:28

Just goes to show that money can't buy everything, having lots of lovely things and holidays etc can alienate the people you love with whom you can't share it all. I am sure they don't wish for that, what choices are there.

My son has a wealthy girl friend, I know before they have children that I won't be able to compete with other granny in terms of treats or gifts, it is what it is, LIFE.

I look back on my own life now and see when I thought I was just passable, I was really rather attractive, when I thought I was inferior I was actually the same as everyone else, most of what we see and feel is about us ourselves.

We have to let the kids go, I am glad your daughter has found someone who can keep her in a secure manner, who values her education and who allows you to share things with them. I pity more the people whose daughters and sons emigrate, in the end they all make their own choices.

Some parents find their educated children have less in common with them, some families grow apart politically, in this instance it is just money, they aren't thinking about that but it affects you as you feel at a disadvantage.

Try to relax and not feel aggrieved or hurt, I am sure that is noot their intention.

We all bring different things to family life and you will probably never know the other conversations that happen and where the richness that is you and the life you gave your girl are spoken of with pride and love.

maxgran Tue 01-Mar-16 16:06:06

I agree Sherish

It sounds like Soapso expects people to behave the way she thinks they should, i.e the way she does.
I can only think she needs to discuss her concerns with her daughter and maintain that relationship. There is no need to have any relationship with the in laws.
The daughter is an adult now so it is up to her how she allows the in laws to dominate her - or not.

sherish Tue 01-Mar-16 15:27:57

Unless your DD has told you that she's unhappy I don't see what the problem is, unless the problem is only with you. I must risk sounding harsh but your long post reads as though you have quite a chip on your shoulder.
Your DD appears to have a good standard of living, her child is looked after and likely to go to a good school. Have you brought her up to be a shrinking violet unable to stand her ground if she isn't happy? Not once in your post do you say she has confided in you to this effect, or are you wishing she had? Your post reads as though you are being quite 'needy'.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 01-Mar-16 14:54:17

FarNorth so true. grin

elena Tue 01-Mar-16 14:49:50

Some of you have understood this saga a lot better than I have!

soapso, if your account of everything is true, then for goodness sake get the thread deleted.

Your family is easily identifiable, and if your daughter and SIL find out you have written it, things might get even worse.

The whole thing is so odd.

FarNorth Tue 01-Mar-16 14:32:08

soapso you've described a couple of times when you felt overruled or ignored. If that is the usual way you are treated it's understandable if you are annoyed about it.
If your daughter wants to meet, ask her to come to you rather than meeting at her place or in town. She's not so likely to bring the other GPs along then.

It sounds to me as if things are getting on top of you, after a long time of putting up with it. It could be good to consult a counsellor to try to work things out. A rant on GN can only go so far. flowers

aggie Tue 01-Mar-16 14:12:57

Bollywood would pay good money for this script

annsixty Tue 01-Mar-16 13:57:50

Does GN turn us into cynics?. Discuss.

Alea Tue 01-Mar-16 13:52:31

confusedconfusedconfused
If you genuinely seek an amicable solution to this dilemma, I wish you enlightenment.
If on the other hand , this is a run through for a potential "soap" plot, my strong advice would be, try something different.

soapsoanelive Tue 01-Mar-16 13:47:30

Thanks Angela1961, sorry Maxgran, Lupatria, maybe because I have done too much for them and honestly, without any sense that I looked pushy or wanted something back. I'm proud of them. All of them. I realise that there is such a massive veneer of obligation, duty and respect that is solid and dependable and really social achievement and it's daunting.

It's that they've decided what's going to happen a year in advance....eeek!

It's probably as confusing to you as it's to me. I'd like to change it and this is a way of getting a perspective on my own internal ramblings: it's always easy to imagine that there's something wrong with someone rather than actually thinking, really, this person isn't being listened to, this person is being badly treated even though this person is treating other people with respect.

Me. I've always treated them with respect: I realise that they are different. I will let you all go now and thanks for your comments.

Dandibelle Tue 01-Mar-16 13:47:15

I agree with jinglbellsfrocks soap xx
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Angela1961 Tue 01-Mar-16 13:16:12

Your daughter is obviously an intelligent adult. And that's where perhaps, the problem lies. She has made her life,decided what she is happy with and she is living it. It might not include you to the depth of your expectation and sadly you have to live with that also. I have two daughters 34 & 30 both married with children. I am divorced from their father and it wasn't an amicable split. My younger daughter wants nothing to do with me. Over the past ten years I have tried and tried to reconcile with her but sadly it's not to be. I wasn't invited to her wedding and haven't met my grandchildren. It nearly broke me but I've now accepted she makes the decisions on how to live her life.

maxgran Tue 01-Mar-16 13:15:39

It is confusing.
Sounds to me like you are over monitoring your daughter's life?
If she is happy with the relationship with her in laws then I cannot see the problem
It also sounds a bit like paranoia that they are somehow alienating you and what they do is with you in their thoughts?

Why would you think the Hamper was to buy you off? Is it not just a nice gift from your daughter?
Do they HAVE to tell you they are going skiing? Is it your business?

The In Laws have a relationship with your daughter, not with you.
Please try to stop investing so much time into wondering what they are doing.
Your daughter is an adult, has chosen a partner and seems ok with everything, therefore your concerns are unfounded.

Lupatria Tue 01-Mar-16 13:02:16

I, too, have read through this thread right to the end in the hopes that something would explain it!
i'm totally confused by the whole thing and am not sure what the purpose was in starting it.
sorry, it's just my opinion, but perhaps it would have been better not to have started it at all.

Alea Tue 01-Mar-16 12:57:12

I did feel 'weird' that day because I had no control over what was happening. It was an analogy, it didn't really happen

Now I am confused, what didn't happen? How was it an analogy?
I am not a bossy school teacher, nor aggressive, but a realist and if you don't like how I read your situation, that is fine by me.
But when a person asks "*Am I Being Unreasonable*? don't be outraged surprised if the answer is "Yes".

POGS Tue 01-Mar-16 12:52:53

Bugger you already answered my question.

You are a feminist. blush I am thinking that maybe you are a very strong person soapso and I am sure you are capable of handling the In Laws. Perhaps you scare them to death!

Tegan Tue 01-Mar-16 12:51:44

I think I pretty much get where soaps is coming from and agree with what Wilma has said. I don't think she has a problem with her DD's lifestyle other that when too much is handed to someone on a plate it can stop them developing as a person. And she's been in the relationship for so long she can't see how controlled she is by her in laws.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 01-Mar-16 12:50:05

I have felt uneasy from the start of this thread POGS. grin

POGS Tue 01-Mar-16 12:48:39

I have tried to engage with this thread but I can't help thinking if the be all end all of the reason to post was the relationship between mother and daughter I could feel empathetic. However I am feeling uneasy and I don't know why?

I find the rhetoric of the family set up merges with class , wealth issues etc. in a rather odd way. Odd in the sense that points are being mentioned in a fashion that leads me to query if there is more than one issue hoping to be discussed than the mother daughter relationship and request for advice.

Am I detecting a strong feninism characteristic in your persona soapsoanelive? Forgive me if I am misconstruing your posts but I am just being honest .

If I am wrong all I will say is I hope you and your daughter continue to share a good mother daughter relationship irrespective of any outside influence.

annsixty Tue 01-Mar-16 12:46:58

Your last 2 sentences are very wise Wilma she should build for the future with her GC.