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Halloween costumes - a step too far?

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shishkebab Mon 24-Oct-16 11:18:58

Please tell me I am not just being a grumpy old woman. But while I am all for dressing little ones up like witches or ghosts or pumpkins etc etc to go trick or treating I really struggle with many of the costumes available for young (and very young) children.

Before you say anything, I do have a sense of fun and I do enjoy helping shepherd the little ones round to get sweets etc - it is all very tame and good natured round our way and they do look forward to it. But I struggle with the costumes that are ripped and 'blood' stained and like something out of a horror movie. Surely dressing children as the stuff of nightmares before they go to bed is not wise? And after seeing so many heartbreaking images on the news of late, of small children in ripped and blood-stained clothing in Aleppo etc I feel it is also in very poor taste. AIBU to feel this way?

Nelliemoser Sun 30-Oct-16 23:42:34

Apart from possible fire risk Some of the costumes are really nasty and scary. They could certainly really upset younger children. There should be a way of making it less scary and more fun.

NannaJay Sun 30-Oct-16 14:36:41

I personally don't like the trick & treat thing, I never have. It's quiet around here and I haven't had any problems since moving here but it was bad at my old house. It is very much an American thing, that I prefer to avoid

Lewlew Wed 26-Oct-16 09:31:16

Awwww... Granny23, love those carved neeps!

In the US, Halloween has gotten out of control with too many nights of kids and adults running riot.

I was in a small Welsh village one Halloween here and the pub did a kids party with costume contest (one kid came with a box over his head draped with white cloth and his head was covered in plastic fruit as a centrepiece, not a head to be carved!), apple bobbing and painting faces on pumpkins (safer). Nothing went to waste, lots of pumpkin soup was made and put into the freezer. Yum. I asked.. hey what about pumpkin pie? That's one US treat I do like, but guess it's not popular enough here.

Granny23 Wed 26-Oct-16 09:07:01

As my DD tells her children on a daily basis 'We are Scottish not American' We try to stay traditional with 'Guisers' (short for disguisers) and turnip lanterns as the family have done for generations but it is difficult when even the school asks for carved pumpkins (£2,50 from supermarket) instead of 'Neeps' (Free from the garden)

Yorkshiregel Wed 26-Oct-16 08:55:54

A word of warning for those who do celebrate Halloween. You have seen the reports of these costumes suddenly catching fire haven't you? They are not fire-proof and a naked flame can send them in to a fire ball with your child in the middle. Please do not let your child be a victim because they will have to live with the scars for the rest of their lives...if they survive the flames that is.

Just so you know!

BlueBelle Wed 26-Oct-16 08:55:06

Haha antheacarol its staying in that seems a problem for some so think you ve missed the point really
I don't think anyone is complaining about a costume of a witch it's gone a lot further than that and that is what is worrying a lot of nastiness or at worst teaching kids to beg and be nasty if the giver hasn't given

Yorkshiregel Wed 26-Oct-16 08:44:20

I am a Christian. I do not like Halloween or what it stands for. I do not think children should be told it is fun to threaten their neighbours with threats of scratching the car or throwing eggs at people's houses. So we do not join in the so called 'fun'.

Better I think, if you really want to celebrate something that is about witches and wizards, to stay in your own homes. Stop scaring people with your horrible costumes.

antheacarol Wed 26-Oct-16 08:30:54

They are only costumes and if they get people talking that can't be a bad thing .I am a Wiccan and could get upset about how people dressed up and disrespect Witches but I don't. The world is way to PC .If you don't like Halloween stay in for one night .

GrandmaMoira Tue 25-Oct-16 22:09:46

I first knew of Halloween celebrations when my sons were small in the 1980s and they dressed up and went to a party at a friend's house. That was OK.
Nowadays we have small children without adults knocking at the door - unsafe for them. Also, teenagers wanting money - unsafe for me. Obviously most parents are with their children but those that aren't. how can they let their kids knock at strangers' doors?

Deedaa Tue 25-Oct-16 21:06:04

My grandsons go out trick or treating because their father is American. But they go out with their parents and only visit friends.

TriciaF Tue 25-Oct-16 20:23:12

I never liked it either - I don't think our children ever did anything to 'celebrate'.
I thought that these traditions were because the following day is All Saints Day, and the night before all the mischievous, bad spirits go on the rampage to try to chase away the goodies of the next day?

elea Tue 25-Oct-16 20:01:14

Hi! Grandmama, I remember when my windows were popped for fun and eggs lunged at the car it,s like battery acid, horrendous to move, hope it,s alot better now. Booked a holiday in north Yorkshire for July 2017, hope weather is kind. Love and flowers ? to youxx

Grandmama Tue 25-Oct-16 19:52:08

I can remember a Hallowe'en party when I was in my teens - a friend and I went to it on the bus dressed as witches and I blacked out one of my front teeth, good fun and amusing to the other passengers. But now I see Hallowe'en as part of the Americanisation of our country - Father's Day, Mothering Sunday has become Mother's Day, Disney has adapted some of our much loved children's stories. Up in Yorkshire we used to have Mischief Night - 4 November - probably reflecting the date when Guy Fawkes planted his gunpowder under Parliament. It could be a nightmare, gates taken off, youths being a nuisance but that seems to have disappeared in favour of Hallowe'en - yes, we've had eggs thrown at the house, what a job to clean off. I complained at the local Coop and they looked on the CCTV and identified the lads who had bought the eggs and warned the staff about selling eggs to youths.

elea Tue 25-Oct-16 19:33:40

My goodness Grannypiper, what did go through your mind at the time? I have 2 days respite a week, 1 day I catch up on most jobs, day 2 I try and chill out going to a garden centre and having a scone maybe. Cos my son and I sit at the table every night. Thank goodness for slow cookers. Are there any lonely, mistreated or isolated grans anywhere near Morpeth. Maybe we can all get together one day and a coffee. It would be greatxx

grannypiper Tue 25-Oct-16 18:47:59

i was in a highstreet store yesterday and they were selling in the childrens aisle a blood stained chainsaw !

elea Tue 25-Oct-16 17:47:24

Guess I just spent too many years in pathology, saw enough horrors and heartbreak everyday. Claudia winkleman at the moment, I,m thinking of. Her daughter is still undergoing surgery. How about having a happy party at a community centre having a cookery, supervised lesson, pumpkin pies, soup fritters, muffins, toffee apples etc, eating all their wares and having a little discoxx

Gaggi3 Tue 25-Oct-16 17:39:54

My reasons for loathing Halloween are purely personal. For several years running, some time ago, our house was targeted for egg-throwing. We were on one corner of a T-junction, so there were three escape routes. I remember one notable year when I spent the whole of the next day cleaning the front of the house and car. Egg is really difficult to remove, and what a waste!
Saw some very small children in the U.S. dressed up for Halloween. They looked very sweet, one was a tiger, strangely, and they seemed quite bewildered.

Ruth1958 Tue 25-Oct-16 17:32:44

Really dislike Halloween. Another money grabbing highlight of stupid suckers!

Legs55 Tue 25-Oct-16 17:26:39

Grannyisland & Craftycat are spot on. I come from Yorkshire but lived not far from Pendle Hill - home of the Lancashire Witches. As children we had parties where we would dress up as Witches etc., no Trick or Treating - American import plus we had no close neighbours.

Teenagers & young Adults would often climb Pendle Hill, Police had a busy night when people got lost angry

Local pub (nearest lane onto Pendle) would close for evening to avoid trouble.

I hate all the "hype" now but DGS had a Halloween Disco at School, he is 6 & went dressed as a Zombie hmm. Children love being scared in a safe environment, as long as it's harmless fun I don't mind

Barmyoldbat Tue 25-Oct-16 17:21:11

I hate it as it is now. When the kids were little we made pumpkin faces and put candles in them in the windows..played games like bobbing for apples but they were not allowed to go out knocking on doors as I believe its rewardinding the threat of bad behaviour. Also I thought the night was to celebrate the dead spirits returning to see their loved ones. Believe they have such a celebration in China but they celebrate it in a respectful way.

elea Tue 25-Oct-16 17:21:06

I,m 59 not a kiljoy, but Halloween and guy Fawkes night freak me right out. So bad that I shop on line during this period. Everything is all death and body parts as sweets. Not looking forward to the bangers with my special needs son and his sensitive hearing and then our little poodle that goes barmey. Am I the only one. Don,t the little ones have nightmares with all this blood and gorexx love to all. Great siteflowers

Lewlew Tue 25-Oct-16 17:18:36

Having lived most of my life in the US (so far... getting older over here by the year!) I have had to contend with horrid clashes of colours and decorations in stores due to all the merchandise and crap for holiday events:

Take a lot of orange and black for halloween, mix with gold and rusts and browns for Thanksgiving, and add green and red for Christmas. Then the blue and white for January sales. Mix all together in stores starting in September (alongside of the Back To School offers) and you just want to PUKE!!!

I have already seen Christmas decorations out in stores here now. Ugh. hmm

Phoebes Tue 25-Oct-16 15:10:08

Why should we have to sit in the dark? Our local Neighbourhood Watch has produced a sticker which says "No Trick or Treaters" which you can print off and stick on your front door. I find Trick or Treating very intimidating, especially in view of all these killer clowns. Having said that, we only ever get little ones coming round with an adult, but it could easily turn into something more frightening and you don't know who's ringing your door bell, do you? I think the whole idea has gone too far and it's just another excuse for the shops to make money. When I was little, we just used to play lots of apple bobbing games at Brownies or Guides, which was a lot of fun, but we would never have knocked on people's doors.

Aepgirl Tue 25-Oct-16 14:49:49

I also detest the whole Halloween thing. When I was a child (not millions of years ago!), we carved a turnip or a swede, and put it in the front garden, not to attract 'visitors' but just to show that we celebrated 'All Hallows Eve'. Now it's pumpkins - American; Trick or Treat - American; scaring people -American.

My daughter says that there are no fun outfits for boys for Halloween, just scary and ugly ones.

This grumpy old lady turns out the lights and ignores those knocking on my door on 31st October.

BlueBelle Tue 25-Oct-16 14:16:42

Halloween has been around for years as you stated but the modern version of it is definitly aUS import and one of their worse ones we did have the apple bobbing games the pumpkins the special cakes etc but never the going round in very scarery costumes with the soul purpose of frighten everyone and the begging Is not nice ' if you don't give me I ll threaten you' I m lucky most of the kids knocking on my door seem to just want a handful of sweets
I wonder if it depends what part of US Rosina as I ve heard and read nasty stuff coming from iver there