Rehousing issue for Grenfell Towers survivors

So they forget about them do they?
That's ridiculous. They should ask for more.

As would Corbyn!

I have no idea why they're not used, however, less than 50% have been successful in London, so even when they have been tried, the most likely outcome is failure.

"The minimal use of Empty Dwelling Management Orders (EDMOs) since then comes despite 137 being granted, compared with 208 applications in total."

That looks like more than half being granted. It's actually over 65%; May would love to have that advantage in a vote.

Well, as only seven boroughs have made any applications in 11 years, it's not much of a problem, is it?

Perhaps if they made more, they would be taken more seriously.

I think the problem is that more than half of the EDMOs fail.

"In London the picture last year was even more dire. Council seizures of empty homes in the capital fell to zero in 2016 despite latest figures showing 19,845 homes sitting empty for more than six months over the year.

Only seven of the 32 London boroughs have made any applications for EDMOs at all in 11 years.

The only boroughs to have made applications are: Lewisham, Bromley, Hounslow, Kensington & Chelsea, Hammersmith & Fulham, Havering and Barking & Dagenham.

Kensington & Chelsea – scene of the Grenfell fire – had the highest number of empty homes (1,399) of any London borough last year and has made just one application since 2006."

www.24housing.co.uk/news/seizure-of-empty-homes-falls-to-record-low/

Shows the problems involved with empty homes.

Except that there are basic needs that are common to all communities. A safe place to live being one of them. You don't need any understanding of any culture to appreciate that.
I would imagine most of the remarks made about the Moroccans have been made about immigrant communities throughout history. The Jews, the Indians, the Pakistanis, they have all settled and integrated to one degree or another.

Agreed Primrose . An understanding, or awareness, of what has caused or contributed to different communities problems can only assist in helping to resolve them. It's the ongoing failure to understand that has caused the rifts between differing cultures and communities across Europe. Somewhat blinkered to believe that help can be given in any situation if you don't understand what has caused the problem and what needs to be done to resolve it.

I think a lot of the criticism of the response by various agencies has been that they don't understand the needs of the different communities. A greater understanding can only lead to a more appropriate and sensitive solution to be found.

Don't get uppity!
I'm just saying there's a lack of understanding which has now gone on over 50 - 60 years in both France and the UK. Many Moroccans are now 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, but still they remain poorer relations.

Why should we need to understand them to help them?

Interesting article, djen.

There are similarities to those housed in the banlieues of Paris. The problem as I see it, is that they fall between two cultures and most of us don't really understand what they came from and why.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/08/grenfell-fire-british-moroccans-hit-hard-rehousing-decisions

Lots of answers here to some questions about the residents of Grenfell.

gillybob I obviously didn't make my point about economies of scale very well!

Gillybob, I expect someone else will be better informed than I am but, it's my understanding that the poorer council areas had a greater proportion of money from central government deducted in the austerity cuts, than wealthier boroughs. I live in a deprived area if the north west where our council have been forced to make cuts to front line services as a result.

I'm not going to argue who gets the better deal from the bin man Primrose . I live in one of the poorest and most deprived areas in the U.K. And yet our council taxes are some of the highest ????

The two young chaps living 100 miles away realised the difficulties that caused.

There again, I suppose only 'good' landlords would agree to appear on the programme, so not a fair representation.

Trescothick??? What is wrong with this phone! Its Tesco!

It's a good programme. The landlords all seem to be genuinely shocked at the state of the places. Seems like they were good at managing the properties themselves but, once they employed staff to do it and withdrew themselves a bit, things were just not done. I think the landlords learned a lot including how much they appreciate good tenants. That Trescothick man was lovely as was the Indian family.

No - the attitude of some of them - a couple had a rude awakening when staying in one of their own properties!

Yes, it's one of the lowest. And despite being filled with empty houses, it's one of the most highly populated in the UK. That's one reason why it's low - 13,000 people per sq km. That's nearly 10 times the density of Leeds, so I suppose you get a better deal from the binmen.

I think K&C borough has one if the lowest council taxes in the U.K.

What difference does it make how many properties a landlord owns, as long as they're being rented out in good condition and at reasonable rents? Are you suggesting that their should be some sort of cap on the number of properties one should own?