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Oldwoman70 Wed 03-Jan-18 12:20:15

I am fortunate to have a large drive and am happy for my neighbours with smaller drives to park on it as long as I can get in an out. New Years day I saw a strange car on the drive, parked in such a way as to prevent me getting out. I assumed it belonged to a guest of my next door neighbour and ignored it until I needed to leave the house at mid-day. Rang my neighbour, not his. I then had to go along the street knocking on all the doors to find out who it belonged to. Eventually found it was a neighbour at the far end of the street, who has never spoken to me. I asked if the car could be moved as I was going out. The neighbour said the owner was still in bed but that she would tell him

After 20 minutes I went back and said I was still waiting for the car to be moved to be told the owner was in the shower!! Again said I was waiting to go out and could someone else move it only to be told he didn't like anyone else driving his car and that I was being unreasonable as he wouldn't be much longer!! Told them that I didn't care if he was stark naked the car had better be moved immediately as I was going to ring a friend who owned a tow truck and lived 5 minutes away to come and move it for me (I don't!) A young man with wet hair and looking very angry arrived and moved the car.

Now the reason I am seething - was speaking to my next door neighbour today and he said that the first neighbour is telling everyone how unreasonable I was! angry

Sorry just felt the need to rant to someone!!!

Catlady47 Thu 15-Feb-18 21:33:12

So cheeky!

Grammaretto Sun 11-Feb-18 19:54:48

We are often blocked in by thoughtless, lazy people. Once a delivery van driver just said he'd be a minute. I was desperate to get by so got into his cab and started the engine. I've never seen anyone move so fast or swear so much. But there is a culture of lawlessness where I live. Cars park on the pavement, on white zigzag lines at traffic lights. .There's no one to enforce the law. My rant over now.

Mapleleaf Fri 09-Feb-18 14:12:59

It is theft. Did the deliverer leave a card saying parcel left with neighbour. If so, maybe a chat to the police for advice. (Keep the cards as proof).

NannyJan53 Thu 08-Feb-18 10:36:57

Surely that is theft?

In the future when ordering anything, I would tell them to make a note not to leave at your neighbours address if you are not in!

On the original post, it seems many people are quite selfish when parking and see it as their 'right' to park wherever they like!

leemw711 Thu 08-Feb-18 03:55:27

How horrible to have such unreasonable neighbours - I live next door to a man who will accept parcels addressed to me but then refuse to hand them over when I call for them. Don’t know what use he makes of the samples of products such as household cleaners and disposable nappies which I am sent but I think it’s a real cheek to nick ‘em from me!

chloeclogs Mon 08-Jan-18 01:01:08

He's an idiot. I'm sure all the neighbours he's spoken to will be on your side. After all they wouldn't like it if it happened to them especially on New Years Day as most people going out would be expected at friends or relatives at a certain time as I was myself.

harrigran Sat 06-Jan-18 09:02:15

Like the selfishparker website, we have a FB page for our town called parking like a t* in ******.

haporthrosie Sat 06-Jan-18 00:54:20

'Do not park here! You shall smart for this!' Flanders and Swann, 'The Gnu Song'

Oldwoman, the world needs more people like you; in fact I think the world needs more like most of us on GN. Love your neighbour's idea for the sign and Phoenix and Grannie Guitar's curses! Pins into wax models of his big end, definitely!

Catgrandma's sadly spot-on. Everything these days is 'I'm never wrong, someone else is' and it's madness. It's completely manipulative and has become so entrenched it boggles the mind. But if generous-hearted people change then we're just handing the victory to the rotten little cowards.

Benjiesmum, please take Alchamilla's advice. Don't have any more to do with this person. She's a particularly nasty form of tea-leaf. Hope things work out.

Shizam Fri 05-Jan-18 22:57:11

Park your car in drive in such a way that no one but you can park there. If neighbours you like, want to park there, explain why and allow them in as a favour. Then when they’ve lost their easy free parking, they may have a word with the annoying neighbour on your behalf to keep their beneficial deal.

tiffaney Fri 05-Jan-18 22:11:43

I would be furious. We were angry (which l voiced on here recently) when a neighbours teenage kids and their friends kept parking in front of our house and that wasn't even on the drive! Stick to your guns, you're in the right.

Clarecrip1 Fri 05-Jan-18 21:19:44

I think you have been seriously taken advantage of here, the young man should have been required to move his car as soon as you asked him to.
I think it’s really lovely that you are happy to let your neighbours park on your drive, long may it continue, but people also have to respect that they are parking on your land. They should all be asking your permission and checking when/if you need to go out yourself.
To be honest, if I’d found a completely strange car parked on my land, with no forewarning, I would probably have phoned the Police and reported it as an abandoned vehicle, possibly stolen? That might have given the owner something to think about!
Equally, it’s quite tempting to suggest you start charging, if people want to use your land as a car park, causing wear and tear to your property, maybe they should start paying for the privilege!
You are certainly not being unreasonable to expect to be able to get on and off your property as and when you need to. The unreasonable bit is assuming it’s ok to invade someone else’s property and dump your car there!

Sennelier1 Fri 05-Jan-18 20:14:42

I think that from now on you should block your drive and put up a sign that neighbours are allowed to park once they've agreed on some simple rules. Like making sure you always have full usage of your own drive.

johnofwhixall Fri 05-Jan-18 18:48:04

People dont park anymore they abandon

try

selfishparker.com and upload the image

sue421 Fri 05-Jan-18 18:11:16

Hey ho - time to pull back on your generosity! There is no way I would have done that to you - how you handle that depends on how friendly you are with everyone else. I would write an open letter saying that after this had happened you will not be allowing anyone to park on your drive unless they speak to you first!
How unbelievably rude! But it is your property. Time for gates on your driveway?

NotTooOld Fri 05-Jan-18 17:53:00

We have a similar situation and it is infuriating. A couple drove up our drive once and parked outside our kitchen door. They both got out of the car, locked it and started walking away. 'Excuse me!' I called. They turned round and looked at me. 'You are parked on my drive,' I said, expecting them to be embarrassed and apologetic. Were they heck? 'We're visiting Mrs X,' they said. 'She lives across the road,' I replied. 'You can park there.' Did they apologise? No, they glared at me, tutted, got back in the car and drove off. Honestly, some people! I know we are lucky to have a big drive but why do people assume it is their right to park on it without even asking? A couple moving in next door once parked their removal van on our drive without a by your leave. I left DH to deal with that one as he's stroppier than me. Needless to say the van was moved with no apology forthcoming but had they just asked we would have let them unload from there. Grr..grr..grr.....

Lilyflower Fri 05-Jan-18 17:37:33

Your neighbours will ignore the awful man as they know you are not unreasonable.

EmilyHarburn Fri 05-Jan-18 17:30:00

Your generosity was abused. I hope you photographed the car on your phone so that if it turns up again you can check immediately that it is parked considerately and if not get the person to move it. You are very kind to allow anyone to use your drive.

codfather Fri 05-Jan-18 17:23:36

Your neighbours are not doing themselves any favours by telling everyone that it was you who was being unreasonable! Had he blocked me in, with my 2.8TD 4x4, his car would have been moved!

Just because someone expresses an opinion, doesn't mean that everyone else holds the same. In fact, they have probably done themselves more harm than you.

Just let them get on with it and if they park there again, ring the Police and say a car is blocking your drive and you need to get out. I had to do that once when a car was parked across mine. The Police sorted it in minutes and it's quite an amusing story but that's for another time.

villy Fri 05-Jan-18 17:16:38

I really wish there was a 'like' button on this forum .

Solartie Fri 05-Jan-18 16:25:55

I agree with everything that has been said already.

I think I would send the neighbour that is saying you are unreasonable a letter stating that from now on your drive is not her free car park and that if you find any more of her visitors parking on your drive you will block them in with a lorry and not bother informing them and if you happen to be going away tough luck.

GabriellaG Fri 05-Jan-18 16:22:06

IngeJones

I mentioned my disgust re parking on the OP's driveway in the first couple of sentences. What I later addressed were some comments made by others who mentioned driveways being blocked.

GabriellaG Fri 05-Jan-18 16:17:27

And another thing. It's not illegal to park on the pavement. What IS illegal is to DRIVE on the pavement. You might say that in order to park there you would have to have driven onto it and you'd be correct. Try getting a video of someone doing that. Police park on pavements too, to give road users the benefit of using the whole width of the road. They are not in the business of prosecuting pavement parkers, that's down to traffic wardens who rarely, if ever, do anything about it.
It's actually an offence to stand and talk on a pavement. They are primarily for passing along in your way to B from A. It's a law which has never been repealed and would incur a fine if it ever got to court.

IngeJones Fri 05-Jan-18 16:10:43

Lol it's one thing parking in front of a drive, but parking ON it is a whole new level of incredibleness.

GabriellaG Fri 05-Jan-18 16:06:54

Of course, one expects that people are decent enough not to park where they know that access and exit might need to be available but not all people are decent, however, they are not breaking any law.

GabriellaG Fri 05-Jan-18 16:03:19

Oldwoman70

I understand the frustration of your generosity being abused by persons unknown to you and I agree that he and his hostess were completely out of order...and rude, however, linking in to some other comments on this thread, I'm afraid that many of you are under an illusion re access.
Regardless of dropped kerbs, whether or not you pay for them, you have no rights outside your property boundary which does not include the pavement or road.
When the Highway Code states 'DO NOT' with regard to parking across a driveway which is not your own, it is merely an ADVISORY note, not enforceable in law.
If the Highway Code states 'MUST NOT' then it is the law and enforceable.
You cannot ring the police to get them to tow or move or interfere with someone blocking your driveway. It IS NOT A matter for the police as it isn't enforceable. Police have nothing to do with it. The highways are public property and you can park wherever you like, save red routes, double and single yellows, zig-zags, crossings etc and designated areas for doctors garages and emergency services. That is the law and it has been the law for a great many years.