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A new forest or money for the NHS?

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NanKate Thu 11-Jan-18 20:09:02

I wish Mrs May has invested the money in the NHS and not a new forest.

DotMH1901 Sat 13-Jan-18 12:25:55

As I understand it the trees can be bought privately by people as gifts or for marking birthdays/weddings/funerals - I bought trees in remembrance of my Dad and my husband - better than a bunch of flowers slowly dying on a gravestone I thought. Last time I checked it cost £15 to sponsor a tree planting, not a great deal considering how much a bouquet of flowers costs today

M0nica Sat 13-Jan-18 11:58:42

dj something we can absolutely agree on, and that doesn't happen often!

A health service free to all is one of the underlying principles of our democracy.

Greyduster Sat 13-Jan-18 11:53:36

We have a large tract of woodland just down the road from us that belonged to a local stately home. They sold it off last year to a private buyer and since then, although they cannot interfere with the statutory rights of way, there has been an increase in fenced off areas and some of the smaller footpaths that could previously be accessed are now closed. You are basically restricted to two paths. I suppose we should be grateful to be able to access it at all now. We are fortunate that, within this city’s boundaries, as well as it’s many smaller areas of accessible woodland, wooded valleys and nature reserves, we have two major tracts of mature (some of it ancient) woodland - one of some 350 acres and the other of over 400 acres. One is owned and managed by the city council and a partner organisation, and the other by the Woodland Trust. They both have ongoing projects which generate an income stream, but which are sensitively managed to provide enjoyment for all who use the woods.

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 11:42:39

So anyone who doesn't have health insurance shouldn't be treated by the NHS? Do you really mean that, Gabriella?
My grandad died because they couldn't afford the medication for him, pre-NHS.
That's what the NHS is for, so that everyone is treated FREE at the point of NEED, not just those who can afford the insurance.

Fortunately, there are still some who want to fight for that principle, as Nye Bevan said.

Washerwoman Sat 13-Jan-18 11:28:54

Forest please.Let's leave a lasting legacy for future generations,create wildlife habitats and soak up some carbon.The NHS is a totally separate issue,and yes it's struggling but as someone who has worked within it,and has family that currently does needs an overhaul and restructuring to cut waste,and an acceptance by the public that it can't provide everything free ,endlessly.I'd happily give my bank details and if I failed to turn up for an appointment without notification-which I never would do,but plenty think nothing of it - at either GPs, hospital,physio etc have a small fee deducted.

GabriellaG Sat 13-Jan-18 11:14:44

Forests bring many benefits, both health-wise and to encourage wildlife, for us AND future generations. In a world that is rapidly being concreted over which in turn leaves water nowhere to be absorbed, I'd vote for forests every time. The NHS can cut pay at the top, ONLY treat people who have verified health insurance or pay upfront for procedures and stop clogging up A&E with drunks and drug addicts who are neither accidents nor emergencies. They should also stop paying silly money to bank nurses and weekend doctors.

starbird Sat 13-Jan-18 11:14:34

I live in a new town and the design includes lots of wooded areas that link up so that everyone has some trees and open space nearby. Plans for expansion also always include provision for green and wooded areas. On the other hand the local library, which is a social hub for all ages from a ‘knit and natter’ group to tots story telling, and after scool drop in on the way home, is closing, and the main one, a bus ride away for most people, is only being kept going by volunteers.

Elegran Sat 13-Jan-18 10:52:27

They will invest more when they have a personal connection than when merely exhorted that they "ought" to do it. They will care more what happens to those woodlands too.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 13-Jan-18 10:49:44

It looks like the Woodland Trust has come up with the perfect way of getting people to invest in the landscape. The things on offer seem so 'right'. I had heard of it, but not looked at the website before. Clever marketing, very appropriate. smile

Candelle Sat 13-Jan-18 10:35:27

Old Meg. Didn't we used to be the third wealthiest country in Europe?

Then the fourth.

Then the fifth.

Now the sixth?

I am not trying to provoke a political argument on this thread but within a few years, it's rather sad how 'we' are in an obvious decline....

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 10:34:50

The Woodland Trust was formed in 1972.

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 10:30:42

I don't think it can if run by the Woodland Trust.

We lived at Stalham for a few years in the 70s, Nfk. I don't think there was a Woodland Trust then.

Jalima1108 Sat 13-Jan-18 10:25:44

Oh, like the Scottish tree-planting tax-avoidance schemes Margs?

Margs Sat 13-Jan-18 10:18:47

I fear this Northern Forest project thingy will simply turn into an enormous tax break for the already enormously well-off......

NfkDumpling Sat 13-Jan-18 07:19:56

I used to live about half a mile away!

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 00:02:25

Stake your claim before you snuff it, and tell your family.
They can buy more later.
I think it's £250 for a quarter acre, £500 for half.
It's got over 15.5 acres, so wherever you are on the map you should be able to find it easily.

NfkDumpling Fri 12-Jan-18 22:38:09

Snakeshill Wood? Perfect! Know it well. It’s not very big though, perhaps by the time I snuff it they’ll have taken over more!

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 17:06:58

A lovely bluebell wood at Snakeshill.

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 17:05:32

www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/support-us/dedicate-a-tree/

Yes, you can dedicate a single tree, a quarter or half or full acre or up to a whole wood.

www.woodlandtrustshop.com/products/963-a-half-acre-of-woodland.aspx#

Old Costessy?

NfkDumpling Fri 12-Jan-18 16:46:44

Can you specify the approximate area DJ? It sounds a lovely idea but if my bit were in the Great North Wood it’d be a bit far to visit on an afternoon!

durhamjen Fri 12-Jan-18 16:43:02

Yes, gillybob. It's Woodland Trust so anyone can go there.
Be warned, there is quite a large area of reclaimed bog on the site, so best not to go when it's rained if you don't know it.
Although it's possible to go to our trees without going through the bog, fortunately.

gillybob Fri 12-Jan-18 16:31:21

My tree has various small pets buried underneath it. Fish, a mouse, hamster, rat and a hedgehog . Some even have gravestones.

gillybob Fri 12-Jan-18 16:29:24

I am definitely going to look into it Durhamjen. Thank you. Are you allowed to freely visit “your” plot?

gillybob Fri 12-Jan-18 16:27:47

We planted a tree when we moved into this house. We sought specialist advise regarding size, shape and suitability (we live close to the sea). Six years in it’s beautiful and just looking at it makes me feel so peaceful. It’s a pity most of my neighbours have paved every square inch of garden they have.

M0nica Fri 12-Jan-18 16:27:27

Most of the people I have heard about who have bought woods, bought them for the therapy and peace managing them gave them.