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To be confused by Pips Bunce?

(53 Posts)
FarNorth Sat 17-Mar-18 10:46:40

One little question - if Pips (Philip) Bunce spends time 50/50 as male/female, and is physically male, shouldn't Pips be referred to as 'he', not 'she'?

Director at Credit Suisse
Pips is a Director and Head of Global Markets Technology Core Engineering Integration Components at Credit Suisse, and also co-lead of their LGBT and Ally network. Credit Suisse’s LGBT and Ally network fosters a workplace environment that is open and inclusive for all regardless of their gender identity, gender expression or sexuality. Pips identifies as gender fluid spending half her time as Phil and the other half as Pippa both at work and at home with her wife and children. She works closely with other firms educating around Trans* and non-binary identities and has produced articles and documentaries on the subject with organisations including the Financial Times and the BBC. Pips is highly active in working to eradicate marginalisation and promote the importance of authenticity.

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 14:32:48

MissA shock

Lynnieg Sat 17-Mar-18 14:59:06

And that's why you need to look at this petition smile

Fairydoll2030 Sat 17-Mar-18 14:59:41

A load of boll**ks

Assume he/she/it still has ‘his’?

MissAdventure Sat 17-Mar-18 15:00:33

grin fairydoll

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 15:04:50

and produced sperm too Fairydoll

NanaandGrampy Sat 17-Mar-18 15:06:08

What a load of old tosh!!

I understand if you feel the need to transition to a different gender but being ‘fluid’ is pretty much the most rubbish I’ve heard the world subscribing to !

MissAdventure Sat 17-Mar-18 15:06:20

Would that be classed as 'gender fluid'? grin

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 15:07:35


Fairydoll2030 Sat 17-Mar-18 15:11:26

Oh dear, laughed so much my wi**y went stiff! blush

MissAdventure Sat 17-Mar-18 15:24:36

I laughed my tits off! blush

Chewbacca Sat 17-Mar-18 15:31:16

Oh MissA! Brilliant! grin

farview Sat 17-Mar-18 15:35:26

A little boy in my dgd's class,they're 10,refers to himself as 'genderless'!!! His mum told him to do so as he prefers to play with the girls,doesn't like 'boys'....hmm

Moocow Sat 17-Mar-18 15:44:44

You know when people used to say the world has gone mad? Well it seems to me, the world really has

farview Sat 17-Mar-18 15:48:28

I agree Moocow it's nuts!!!!

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 15:57:40

So his mother has decided that he is genderless, as he is too young to have decided for himself before puberty.

sodapop Sat 17-Mar-18 17:10:45

Made me laugh too MissA

I agree, what a load of pretentious crap rubbish.
Children must be totally bewildered by all this stuff being thrown at them. Nowadays there is no time just to be a child it seems.

MawBroon Sat 17-Mar-18 17:14:50

Sister in law used to be Head of Costume at a well known art college. It’s an old building with loos dotted around the place , none of them desinated “ male” or “female”
She went back in September to find all the doors sporting a new sign
“Gender Neutral Toilet”

MissAdventure Sat 17-Mar-18 17:17:07

Gender neutral names are coming into their own, too, as I was just saying to my friend Spong the other day..

maryeliza54 Sat 17-Mar-18 17:30:32

I usually distort the style, elegance and grammar of my beautiful prose by using ‘they’ ‘them’ ‘their’ etc in situations like the OP. For the very few genuine transwomen I’m aware of ( and I used to work with one) I would always say ‘she’ ‘her’ etc.

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 18:00:15

Yes, not confusing in those cases.

Gerispringer Sat 17-Mar-18 18:12:31

I guess I would challenge the idea that even with his bits chopped off doesn’t make a man a woman. Being a woman is not just a man without a penis.

SueDonim Sat 17-Mar-18 18:19:01

Top jokes here! grin

I've never heard of Pips Bunce but I'll believe they're a woman when I see evidence of their XX chromosomes.

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Mar-18 18:23:31

Poor him/her
Having a name like that must be confusing to start with.

minesaprosecco Sat 17-Mar-18 18:31:06

On a serious note, the issue of self identification is being pushed by trans activists, and it is entirely possible that men will be able to just say 'I'm a woman' and so gain access to women's safe places. It is a concern in prisons already. I would urge you all to read this article The writer is a Labour supporter and makes reference to left and right political stances which you may not agree with, but the rest of the article is clear about how true trans people do not want to erode women's rights in the pursuit of their own. And sign the petition mentioned in a previous post!

Leonora47 Sat 17-Mar-18 22:39:01

I worry about his/her poor wife.
Whilst he/she is being a "she" will his wife have to identify herself as a lesbian? And conversely, when he /she is being a "he", should his wife be considered to be a widow?