To consider 10 hours gym a week excessive?

Ten hours a week does seem a lot; if a child shows talent I wonder if it could 'take over' their lives and in fact affect their joints later on.
I know of a girl (aged 9) who is taken out of school early every day of the week to travel 40 minutes to gymnastics training - then competes some weekends. That is not in this country so being taken out of school for an hour a day is allowed - but is it a good thing?

You are right to be concerned; ten hours a week is excessive for a six year old. Children in physical activities do need to start early and train hard, but this is too much, and may cause permanent injury. Some of these clubs are interested only in competitions and medals, and have no idea how to regulate pressure.
It will also impact on the other children in the family.
I taught a nine year old who had been training in competitive gymnastics from the age of six, and the mother ignored all concerns about her level of involvement, and the neglect of the other two children as a consequence
The crunch came when an official from her club phoned the school and instructed the Headmaster that the child must not take part in any PE or sports lessons in case she injured herself. Social services were sent round to investigate the family, and the club, which was not following B.G.A guidelines.

Thanks all - you are confirming my concerns. In fairness I think the club is registered with all the right people but they are pretty competitive. They don’t seem to be allowing a compromise position. Yes harrigran, the gym club my daughter went to was run by two ex competitive gymnasts who ran it on a just for fun level because of what they had been through as children. It clearly isn’t only gym which is like this. I think the clubs get carried away with themselves!

I think 10 hours a week is way too much for a six year old, her little joints will be taking a lot of punishment. I attended a gym club that trained olympic gymnasts and it made me determined not to put my children through that.
GDs have left a swimming club that were piling on the pressure to train everyday before school.

It’s 20 years since I was coaching jane but I’m very surprised at the level of commitment they expect from a child this age.

Can I suggest you check that she would be expected to attend all these sessions for the full time if she was chosen? It seems excessive.

Also could it be suggested that she perhaps continue as she is for now and ‘try out’ at a later date when she is older.

I would have severe doubts about an organisation that expected a child as young as six to do such prolonged sessions twice a week, an hour a day, perhaps, but even that sounds excessive

I went on to the British Gymnastics Association site and found their Health and Safety policy and it contains the para
^Children under eight years of age
Where gymnasts under the age of eight years are involved in activities of a duration of two or more
hours, the provider may be required to register with the Local Authority Social Services. Although
the legislation that regulates the care of children under eight years is not normally applied to sport,
British Gymnastics recommends that clubs with classes for children within this age group should
notify the Local Authority of their existence to avoid any uncertainty on the issue.
British Gymnastics recommends that sessions for children under the age of eight years do not
exceed two hours and classes for pre-school children should not be longer than 45 minutes.^

which rather confirms my doubts about the advisability of the training recommended for this child.

I would contact the BGA and find out what they would recommend. There are further relevant paragraphs about young children in the HSE policy. The times and durations they give are advisory maximums, not advisory levels.

I think my daughter is very torn between wanting the best for her child, wanting her to do something she loves, and her own feelings that this is too much. I don’t think it is really the parents’ ambition that’s the problem. The trouble is if you tell a parent their child is talented it makes it very hard to say no because they feel they are depriving their child. As a teacher I saw this so often with boys and football. My husband and I have 54 years secondary school teaching experience between us and only ever saw a tiny number of young people make it to the top for all the huge numbers of parents making financial sacrifices and disrupting family life for the sake of a child’s talent. I honestly believe there needs to be some sort of debate about all this. Children and families definitely need time to play and relax.

Thank you for that OldMeg. It confirms my thoughts. Do the gymnastics associations have any guidelines on the age of children and training times?

Children need time to play and relax. I always wonder in situations like this whose ambitions are being played out here. The parents or the child's?
I would think there might be potential damage to a childs physical development with too much rigorous traning before their bodies are really ready for this.

A six year old might find it very difficult to tell a parent they do not want to do this at a "professional" level. There are parents who get "banned" from standing on the sidelines of a childrens football matches because they are over zealous in how they are "encouraging" their child.

Obviously to reach a very high standard you have to train hard. However so very very few ever make that standard and I’m not sure how desirable that is anyway. I am shocked that there are obviously so many very young children (and families) being put in a position where they have to make this level of commitment at this very early age. I know it’s not like the Chinese/Russians but it still strikes me as a very poor way of treating children.

When I was younger I was a B.A.G.A. in my spare time. I also coached the Junior Town Team and judged gymnastic competition.

Yes, this is far too much for a 6-year old. It’s not just the time commitment but also the potential damage to young limbs and back.

I’d think very carefully about this. At this age sport, any sport, should just be for pleasure and exercise and if the child shows promise then more hours, technique and discipline introduced gradually. And it must be the child’s choice, not the parents.

Also too many trainers and clubs are in it for their own glorification. They are quick to drop children who don’t make the grade.

If you want to excel at any sport you have to train hard. All our leading sports people and their families will say they had to give up a normal life to train.
Having said that it presupposes your granddaughter has exceptional talent, I think you have to weigh this against the needs of the rest of the family. If she wants to do this then maybe other parents will help with supervision and transport, maybe the club can help with this,
These things are often short lived with children so I would let her try it for a while then reassess the situation.

I had one granddaughter who was a brilliant gymnast but was burnt out by 13 and having bad knees and panic attacks she’s never been near it since her mum was running her all over the place a lot of money and effort went into it
The countries that have the greatest gymnast Russia China use the most punishing regimes from a tiny age 3 they are literally trained like circus animals doing punishing exercises I watched a video once it made me cry those poor little kids
It’s a hard one as the child doesn’t realise how much ten hours is going to erode everyone lives remembering 10 hours is the STARTING amount it will increase as she gets older if she sticks to it