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To expect that our new passports will be printed in the UK

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Oopsadaisy12 Thu 22-Mar-18 09:22:03

It appears that the new Blue Passports will be printed in France.........
You couldn’t make it up could you?

Gerispringer Fri 23-Mar-18 19:07:24

Once they claim asylum they cease to become an illegal immigrant - as in the case of the ParsonsGreen bomber. But many people will see a fine line between the two.

Gerispringer Fri 23-Mar-18 19:04:56

I meant that illegal immigrants who arrive in the back of lorries from Calais who claim asylum and they do get benefits - asylum seekers do get an allowance. They are not supposed to work but it’s well known that many of them do work under the radar.

Iam64 Fri 23-Mar-18 18:59:06

It's absolutely true that "illegal" immigrants don't qualify for any benefits. I would prefer they were treated by the NHS if in need, rather than untreated and therefore becoming seriously ill. Illegal immigrants involve some people who came here from eg the West Indies 30 years ago - commonwealth and slavery links, yet they're now being found to be illegal and locked up in Yarswood. This is just not civilised.
LuckyFour, we need new passports because we're leaving the EU, so our EU passports won't be legal. Simples.
I saw some figures recently about the financial cost of so called health tourism, which would include 'illegal' immigrants. It was a drop in the ocean of our NHS costs. No doubt someone more organised than I can provide a link (durhamjen)

maddyone Fri 23-Mar-18 18:58:28

I agree with you maggiemaybe, about the community wide tendering process, and I also speak as a remainer.
There have been no ‘lies’ about illegal immigrants, I’m sure Geri made a completely innocent mistake in assuming illegal immigrants can claim benefits, which of course they can’t, that’s why they work illegally and don’t pay taxes or NI. I find the tone of a few of the comments on here to be distasteful. There’s no need for rudeness.
I still feel that there is a very real security risk in printing the passports abroad, that’s why the French and Germans print them in their own countries. Very sensible I would say.

Momof3 Fri 23-Mar-18 18:51:15

We need to trade with the rest of the world as proved if a company offers a cheaper price for a service for example in France who do you think will get the contract? It’s called a free and open market that we will still need to use ??

gillybob Fri 23-Mar-18 18:47:33

I agree it is a disgrace LuckyFour and I don’t trust the French bid !

gillybob Fri 23-Mar-18 18:46:04

They’ve got a bloomin’ license to print money have !

Oh wait a minute ... they actually have got a licence to print money . Sadly not £ sterling though.

I wonder if they need a cleaner ?

I hear Ramsdens exchange rates are excellent at the moment . wink

LuckyFour Fri 23-Mar-18 18:44:53

This is a disgrace, we should be supporting the British company. Why do we need new passports anyway?

maryeliza54 Fri 23-Mar-18 18:24:38

The irony is that the majority of the jobs at the company are financed by fulfilling orders from other countries - with or without the EU we live in a global economy and that’s not going to change

Maggiemaybe Fri 23-Mar-18 18:18:38

Well, at least the situation is giving some GNers, and the whole French nation apparently, a jolly good laugh. Ha ha ha.

I doubt many of those in danger of losing their jobs are “chuckling”, or finding it all quite so “hilarious”.

As a remainder, one of the EU downsides that I shall be glad to see the back of is the community wide tendering process for our public services. Few other countries are daft enough to follow it anyway.

maryeliza54 Fri 23-Mar-18 18:12:22

Ger part of your your post is rubbish - utter rubbish. There is no way on this earth that you can get benefits if you are an illegal immigrant. gilly see the comments and lies about illegal immigrants etc

Gerispringer Fri 23-Mar-18 17:57:14

It wasn’t about illegal immigrants. Our esteemed govt has done precious little about them. The attraction of the UK is that they can get benefits and work under the radar. They are illegal at the end of the day. One poster made a comment about few non white faces in the part of France she visited and I questioned why that seemed relevant. No answer yet.

Sillyoldfool Fri 23-Mar-18 17:33:18

So do I.

gillybob Fri 23-Mar-18 17:32:49

I couldn’t care less about the colour of my passport . Being able to use it now and again would be nice though.

I’m not sure there’ve been any nasty comments on this thread ??? Could be wrong . I often am .

GracesGranMK2 Fri 23-Mar-18 17:27:38

Oh dear.

maddy629 Fri 23-Mar-18 17:08:02

I loved my blue passport, I hate the bloody red thing but I get round it by having a cover for my passport and that is blue.

maddyone Fri 23-Mar-18 16:58:12

Sorry, but don’t see what’s nasty about saying illegal immigrants don’t pay taxes or NI but do use services . It’s a fact, not an opinion. The very fact that illegal immigrants are illegal says it all. Nothing to do with legal immigrants, talking about illegal immigrants. There’s a difference, and they do use services regardless of being illegal. And yes, Gransnet has become quite an intolerant place to be, a place where many preach tolerance, but sadly lack tolerance for views and even facts that don’t fit their view of how the world should be.

VIOLETTE Fri 23-Mar-18 16:28:53

Ha ha ...I live in France and the French think it is hilarious .....they don't believe anyone could make it up (mind you, at the moment we pay in excess of E160 to get our British passports !!) roll on the chance to become a Citizen of the EU instead .......

durhamjen Fri 23-Mar-18 16:21:17

Iam, Mark Steel agrees with you.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/blue-passports-brexit-angry-brexiteers-nigel-farage-fish-french-a8268836.html

So do I.

GillT57 Fri 23-Mar-18 16:14:19

Gillybob, I think,(but don't assume!), that Maryeliza54 is remarking on the rather nasty comments made by some posters ( not you) about colour of skin, and illegal immigrants and impacts on education, NHS etc. Same old racist rhetoric from some people which has nothing whatsoever to do with the colour of passports or who is going to print them. Shame on them

gillybob Fri 23-Mar-18 15:40:18

You’ve lost me maryeliza confused

maryeliza54 Fri 23-Mar-18 15:38:19

There are some nasty nasty racist comments on this thread and a whole raft of unverifiable/ unwarranted facts and assumptions! What an awful place GN can be sometimes

gillybob Fri 23-Mar-18 15:18:21

My thoughts exactly MamaCaz and there is no way a contract could be £120 million astray. Just think about it . I’m convinced the French company are being subsidised by their government .

maddyone Fri 23-Mar-18 15:03:46

Please don't quite the Guardian to me, it's a left wing paper, and indeed like all other papers, tells a story with it's one preferred bias.

maddyone Fri 23-Mar-18 15:01:42

Illegal people in the UK cost a huge amount, and if working illegally do not pay a single penny in income tax, or NI contributions. But they cost in health care, education etc.
No I do not think passports should be printed in other countries, the security risk is real.