to ask why several prominent members seem to have vanished?!?

You look very good Janeainsworth tanned and big haired like a cast member from Hair.??

I had a perm in my 30s, which also ended up a frizzy mess and had to be cut off. After which I grew it again and had a 'french pleat'.
Do you remember home perms?

Perhaps she got fed up with the thread having nothing to do with her original post any more. We could have had a new thread entitled Hairsyles I have had !

Yes, had to have it all chopped off short and have never had another perm since!
Unfortunately, my hair is not straight as a poker either.

How did we get on to this?
And where is jura?

A hard lesson learned by both of us Jalima? but a bit of a nightmare you could have done without during pregnancy.

Agus - when I was in my late 20s my hair was medium length and I decided to have a perm - but no-one said it was not a good idea to have your hair permed when you're pregnant. The result was a terrible frizzy mess and it started breaking off

As a newly turned teenager, all of 13, I begged and begged my mother to let me have my long, straight as a poker, hair permed. I was taken to a hairdresser in town, had some terrible stinky lotion applied then attached to a contraption whereby cables hung from a metal hood and my hair was rolled onto the metal curlers at the end of the cables.

My mother had made her point that I wouldn’t find this a pleasant experience as I sat thinking, this is barbaric! When I was finally set free, the hairdo was a bloody disaster which thankfully straighten out in time?

Sadly, only the hair style was the same, the eyelashes are nothing like hers
Nor did I have an embroidered white satin dress or jumpsuit although they must have been fashionable because Elvis had one as well.

That was about 39 years ago.

Servalan! I remember it well, I once met Blake in a supermarket in Surrey, he said how cute my DD ( toddler) was, and I came over all blushy!

jalima
Did anyone ever tell you your a dead ringer of the actress in Blake 7, Jacqueline Pearce

Wow, Jalima, you are stunning! ☺️

Wow Jalima1108, cracking hair cut, great outfit. Where are you off to?

Mine went wrong and I had it all chopped off like this:

Was I guilty of appropriating a hairstyle from another galaxy? oops.

Also guilty of having an Afro in the '70s! Mine was blonde, so daft on all counts. It was the fashion. I blame Kevin Keegan. My son got his hair dread-locked as a teenager. The African hairdressers who did it and maintained it for him also preached the scriptures to him. They seemed to think he was a 'good boy'.

I agree that some of the points need discussion but I don't think the discussions should be approached from the assumed victimhood angle that the article seems to take—the apparent assumption that all 'minority' people are marginalised, for instance.

We had two Ugandan friends in Oxford. One was always complaining about prejudice; the other said he'd never felt any at all. We thought maybe this had more to do with their personalities than any actuality.

I've read the article, thanks janeainsworth-it certainly was longwinded and laboured the points but they were points that we need to discuss, rather than simply reject.
The reminder that those who claim for example, not "to see colour" was well made.

I only posted the link to highlight the daftness therein

Oh, phew! I read it and thought "oh, boy!"

maw, we do seem to have wandered off piste a bit, don't we?

Rocking my Afro, 1978. DS was 9 months old at the time and cried hysterically when he saw it for the first time

I do agree with you baggs.
I only posted the link to highlight the daftness therein

To touch briefly on the thread title....has Jura2 also now vanished into thin air ??

I will now read that article.

But how can one know whether one has permission? In reality I think one is going to have permission from some, non permission from others and total indifference from many.

I don't feel that non-Western cultures who adopt fashions from the West, or food, or dance, music, etc have appropriated anything. They've just enjoyed it and cultures have mixed. I'm for maximum mixing of the best parts of all cultures.

Scottish dance is an example of something that is enjoyed all over the world. Many, many countries have branches of Scottish dancing clubs affiliated to the Royal Scottish Country Dance Society. I was involved with that society for nearly three decades and I never heard anyone complaining about Scottish dancing being appropriated in other cultures, only pleasure that people all over the world got as much fun out of it, and its music, as we did.

I think accusations of cultural appropriation are just sourness.

Here is a very longwinded article which explains the difference between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation
Enjoy
“Appreciating another culture looks like cultural exchange. You’d have consent to participate in someone else’s culture, and both sides would mutually benefit and gain understanding of each other.

On the other hand, appropriating another culture includes taking from a marginalized group without permission, and usually without respect for or knowledge about their culture.”
My Afro was definitely appropriation, I think.

In 1962 I was briefly on the Isle de Porqueroles, off Hyeres. It was accepted there that you wore what (or as little) as you liked. We wandered along sandy paths through the scented maquis to the sound of cicadas - a second Eden. Walking toward us were a handsome couple with long straight black hair held by bands around the temples woven in patterns like those worn by native Indians. They could have been a brave and his squaw. Should we have accosted them and accused them of cultural appropriation?

PS. After they had passed and we had enthused over the picture they made, we realised that the woven bands were ALL they wore. In the environment, that was very appropriate.