To think Kirsty Allsopp is taking advantage?

It would be very different if the boys had been young.
Twelve today is a teenager, they are very savvy.
But, yes, we are all allowed to disagree ( although earlier in the thread you weren’t prepared to allow me to disagree.)
I would say we are possibly split 50/50 on this matter.

Oh shifting the ground of the argument now lemon? Typical - I can’t just criticise because I think she’s wrong - if it’s not envy, it’s strong dislike?

I do wonder about those who think this however - what’s their motivation for thinking so badly of other GNers

But everybody is entitled to their opinion and indeed their opinion of this as a news (?) story.

Blimey MaryE ......an OTT response from you!
We have never had enough money to travel business class or first class to anywhere, so lucky you btw.
If it’s not envy then it must be a strong dislike of Kirsty Allsopp.

It’s utterly pathetic that some of you can only equate our criticisms of KA with envy and not respect that our different opinions are based on what we actual believe.

123kitty I really get pissed off about this ‘envious responses’ rubbish. Don’t you think any of us on GN can afford to travel business? What planet are you on? FYI I only ever travel business long and medium haul and if adult family, dgs are with us, we all travel business ( and I pay) DGS travelled business for the first time when he was a year old and I paid. Dd was used to first class Motorail travel to our house in France when a child and later 1st class rail travel throughout Europe. I only travel standard on my commute because the train doesnt have 1st class. I wouldn’t normally give out this sort of information but I’m bloody sick of the rubbish about people being envious and that’s why they criticise KA - this is utter crap and completely disrespectful. It says more about those who post this juvenile rubbish than it does about the posters they are criticising. However, even if people can’t afford business, it damn well doesn’t mean that their criticisms of KA are fuelled by sour grapes and jealousy. I do wonder about those who think this however - what’s their motivation for thinking so badly of other GNers ....hummmm

Yep! There is much envy going on here.
It doesn’t matter if she is a wonderful person or the opposite, or that she bites back on twitter.
At ten or twelve the boys were old enough to be on their own (together) they probably liked it.
I may not have done this, but it doesn’t mean it is wrong
To do it.

Never having flown business class, what advantages does it bring?
More legroom perhaps? Not really necessary at age 10 and 12 though.
I imagine the boys were glued to their iPads the whole way so hopefully no issues with behaviour.
Fair enough I wouldn’t have done it, but I’ve never been in her position.
But DD3 flew to Paris as an unaccompanied minor aged about 10, though and was fine.
Is it (just) because she is perceived as posh?

Yes kitty I think you hit the nail on the head with the word envious. It seems it’s poor parenting because she is posh, if it had been someone who had been dragged up then then this would have been to blame. The children were not babies.

Come on- the children are 10 and 12, not helpless little toddlers. KA was on the same plane- within easy calling distance if needed. My kids would have loved this- so would I (if only!) I think the issue has generated a lot of envious responses.

Ah I see it's the standard posh way of dealing with your kids, leave someone else to look after them.

annep, The honourable Kirsty Allsopp is the daughter of 6th Baron Hindlip, a former chairman of Christies. She has had a privileged education and early career opportunities.

These children sound very young which is a different matter

Makes me cross! Was on a flight when mum and dad sat in the row in front of me and the two children sat by me. They needed help with their meals, in flight entertainment etc and one snuggled up to me to go to sleep. No movement from parents when little one was sick until I insisted. I love little ones but don’t like to have childcare foisted on me! Felt really sorry for the children

sorry. typing errors. my touch screen is small.

I must admit my first reaction was to smile and think, well Kirsty is just like the rest of us and enjoys a bit of peace and quiet away from the children. But obviously not! A lot of folj disagree with her. I do envy her. I would love to bd able to afford business class. I'm sure my two sons would have been fine and business class would be a waste. I don't think they would need much looking after either and at that age they would not have missed me on the flight especially nowadays. They can't get on to their ipads etc fast enough. Is she privileged? Maryeliza? feel free to enlighten me. I thought she worked for her money. I thunj the reason given is odd- to teach them something...very odd. I love her property programmes with Phil.

Well I like KA and see nothing wrong with her parenting. Took my two gc on holiday, 12 And 14 and one night they ate in a different restaurant to us, a few doors away from the one we were in. If I had the money I would probably have done a KA on the flight as well. My gc aresensible And well behaved and know what to do if they have a problem. So I am with KA on this one.

We are all gossiping on this thread ( and others too) OldMeg isn’t that what these forums are about ? Friendly chit-chat, banter and gossip, with a bit seriousness thrown in . We don’t all have to agree with each other but it can at least stay friendly and fun.

KA can’t bitch back - flipping heck , Clearly you don’t know her twitter feed and ckearly haven’t read Jane10’s post. She can’t bitch back hahahahaha. Incidentally why OM domyiu use such negative language about women - bitch, , old biddies, old gossips etc

Does anyone really think KA made the comment without expecting a response? I quite like her programmes - especially her on screen relationship with Phil Spencer and I bet she won't be giving a stuff about any criticism.

From her luxury pad in Notting Hill to her 'Home made Home' in the west country, it's all out there. That's how she makes her money.

I remember making her pine syrup one Christmas and ended up cleaning the loo with it.

On the other hand coming back to France on a flight following organising my brother's funeral, I paid around 600 Euros for a good seat on Air France so I would have peace and quiet following a really onerous week of running round , sorting things out, clearing house, dealing with authorities etc ...needed to get back to my husband with Parkinson's who was home alone (people going in, but he didnt like it !) so took the only option .......the flight was horrendous ! although parents were with them, I had screaming babies, shouting children, child kicking the back of my seat ..NOT what I paid for !!!! Normally take the cheapest flight and just put up with it but there seemed to be NO ONE telling these children to be quieter, or stop kicking the seat ................frazzled wreck by the time I got home ! Think if I had Kirstie Allsops money I would hire a private plane ...........oh the bliss ...........

Nothing wrong thank you Maw in fact I’m quite content and happy in my life, and don’t feel the need to bitch about people who can’t hit back. I think you understand where I’m coming from.

Didn’t go back to bed then?

Agree Fenton and OldMeg and her “plummy” voice and privileged background just add fuel to the fire. KA might have made it worth the cabin crew’s while to keep an eye on her boys, who knows? But for me the holiday began as soon as we left home - what works for some doesn’t work for others ...

Oh why is that then maryeliza because I dare to show the contempt I feel for your love of gossip?