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yggdrasil Fri 05-Oct-18 16:40:04

Including the fact that EU citizens coming here to work can only stay 3 months if they do not find that work, and then have to go home.
The permanent domicile and benefits given are down to the Government of this country, not the EU.
So why are people blaming the EU for immigration?

Elegran Fri 05-Oct-18 14:37:05

"take into consideration the fact how many elected to make our exit from the EU" and for very many the reason they voted to do so was because they didn't understand just what was actually our role in the EU, just as in the OP. They believed every bit of "fake news" about bent cucumbers and straight bananas and thought that we were victims. All for a few politicians to get a bit of kudos for tilting against the windmills of "EU dominance" and get themselves further up the Westminster ladder. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, but stepped back when it was time to do the hard work of making their "dream" into reality. Moral - Be careful what you wish for, it may come true.

Opal Fri 05-Oct-18 14:03:04

Couldn't agree more with you PECS. Sadly, we tend to believe what we read in the Press, and a lot of it is skewed, and usually given a negative slant. As a result, it tends to produce a negative "mindset" in Joe Public. It certainly has that effect on me. I find I'm in a better mood during the day if I've avoided the National Press and the News on TV. There must be so much good happening in the world, but it is rarely reported.

Writerbird Fri 05-Oct-18 11:59:48

I agree that we are more easily duped and I think its partly because we are so inundated with advertising of all kinds, including that which goes by the name of information, that it is impossible to discern and analyse the volume of it. I also think that whereas I was taught to question and inquire, that is no longer a required skill. I now take the position that nothing I see or hear is true unless I've confirmed it for myself and that does not seem unreasonable to me.

AlieOxon Fri 05-Oct-18 11:44:29

The advertisers and electioneers KNOW we don't like being dictated to in an obvious way.
That's why they use such underhand methods.....

MaizieD Fri 05-Oct-18 10:57:01

I can only agree with you, PECS.

We have a splendid example in the poster who thinks that the 'Great' in great Britain refers to our status when in fact it describes our geography; 'Great' (or Greater) describes our position in relation to Brittany, which was Lesser Britain (and I'm sure the Bretons would have a word or two to say about that if they thought it described their status)

And in regard to the EU, where the UK was, in fact, a dominant partner very much instrumental in the 'dominating'.

sarahellenwhitney Fri 05-Oct-18 10:45:43

I do not agree as you only have to take into consideration the fact how many elected to make our exit from the EU.
We are not a nation who take kindly to being dictated to hence the Great remains in Britain.

fourormore Fri 05-Oct-18 10:08:43

I am sure we are all brainwashed to a certain degree over so many things - Brexit is a good example of people honestly not understanding the full story. I know someone who voted 'out' as she was fed up with being told cucumbers had to be straight etc.! Bless her - how many others like her voted 'yes' or 'no' because of one 'fact' like that.
Our elderly neighbour was in having a cuppa with us one afternoon recently when the 'Guide Dogs' advert came on the television. She looked at me and said "Gosh I'd forgotten to do that - that poor man still hasn't got his guide dog" Those were her actual words!
I am sure as a nation we are becoming easier to dupe. We did explain to her about the advert but, knowing her, we feel sure she will respond for 'that poor man'

PECS Fri 05-Oct-18 08:55:56

AIBU to believe that we, as a nation,
are getting more naive, easier to dupe or "brainwash"? It seems to me that popular press and other media sources are aiming at the lowest common denomenator!
They publish their skewed 'half truth' headlines deliberately to get a left vs right wing row going and the public fall for it! We don't check sources, read a variety of opinions but like Pavlovian dogs jump and bark based on very little understanding of an issue or on how we are being manipulated by media and press moguls who have vested interests which may be political or just financial!