Gas and electricity charges

We pay £90 a month dual fuel with First Utility, fixed till July 2020. We’ve built up a credit of £350 over the Summer, which will see us nicely over the coming months. That suits us better than withdrawing the surplus now then having to pay more later on in the season. Our smart meter and online account mean we always know exactly where we stand and what we’re using.

My total gas bill since April 6th was £59.74p and payments were £84.
I give monthly meter readings online, send them a screenshot of the meter and can work our exactly what my bill will be.

I pay £14 pm gas (cooking/ch) with Brilliant-Energy .
My gas tariff is 3.40p per unit and 5.50p pd standing charge.
That ends next April.
My electricity is on a 5 yr business rate of £19pm.

Octopus = M&S

Meters have to be easily accessible to both the meter reader and the customer.
If you have used more gas/electricity, then they are entitled to take more money via DD but if you use a lot more than usual, it's incumbent upon the company to let you know that your consumption exceeds your payments.
Are you on dual fuel?
Do you pay by DD or what is your methis of payment?
Are you on a fixed tariff? If yes, they cannot charge more UNLESS you use more.
What was your last read 2 months ago and what is your latest meter reading?
Can you work out your bills yourself?

JustGrandma Those were the days! We moved into this house in 1966. The rates, including the water, were £52 a year. I am paying more than double that, every MONTH now, just for the rates, plus another £34 a month for water.
I hope, by the way, that all of you who don't use much water have had a meter installed. it can save you a fortune.

I'm with Bulb as well, but in the process of moving as their prices have increased considerably. I'm going onto an 18 month fix which I got through the Martin Lewis energy fix, plus I get cash back as well. I normally change once any fix comes to an end either yearly or 18 months as none of the companies reward you for loyalty!!
Another way to save money, not just on energy but on insurance etc, is to go through either Quidco or Top Cashback.

I recently found my very first quarterly electricity bill from when I first married in 1973 - long before privatisation and us all running around like headless chickens, chasing the cheapest prices. The bill was £12. This bill included an £8 interest free payment - the first of eight - for my Belling Compact 4 cooker. It was bought from the electricity board and the payments added to our electricity bill. Being easily able to buy a cooker as a newlywed and being able to keep warm felt like a human right back then. It doesn't feel as though we've progressed at all.

I'm with Utility Warehouse, have been for 7 years. I keep checking and none of the comparisons are giving me a lower price than I pay with them.

I use a prepaid meter,easier for me,once a month put a larger amount on and then just top up by £10 a week on electric and £5 a week on gas so it never goes to low.
I also receive the winter fuel payment as I am on a low income and that really helps a lot.
Haven’t had heating on for years though,even when I was paying by DD, just too scared to put it on so its extra clothes and a duvet for me and my family

I'm with you greengran - I review all household bills every year and switch as necessary - which is almost always. I must admit it's a pain though and I often wish it were all nationalised again, then we would all be paying the same and not lining the pockets of private company executives.

It's well worth joining Quidco, or one of the other similar companies. They sometimes have amazing cashback offers for switching. Not just for energy companies, but telecoms, insurance and general shopping. I once got back £100 from Quidco and also £100 from BT when I switched over.
If my energy supplier tries to put up my monthly payment I just tell them that I will pay the extra at the end of my contract, if there is any due. There has never been the need to yet. They like to have lots of customers' money sitting in their banks, collecting interest. If you are a lot in credit, ask them for a refund.
It's tedious, but I review all my commitments every year, trying to find a better deal. Being a loyal customer usually costs you, these days, as my elderly neighbour can confirm. I was shocked to learn how much she was paying for energy with the company she had been with for years. I helped her to switch, and she is saving £100s a year, as a result. Her money was helping to pay for all the 'new customer' deals. It pays to shop around.

The thing is they quote you a monthly figure to be taken as direct debit that is based on the previous years consumption. Winter isn't new it comes around every year so how can they justify the price increases part way through the year. I refused to pay it last year and there was no large bill at the end and if it happens again with the new supplier I will do the same thing.
What's the point in having a fixed rate tariff if they try to change it half way through?

I am sitting here smiling at some of the names of these new gas and electric companies ????

I am with SSE, they changed my DDs in April reducing them quite a lot. However in September they increased the DDs, I rang & disputed the Electric as I am in credit, my monthly usage doesn't vary much so we agreed on a reduction (I should also receive £140 Warmer Homes Discount), I will probably get a refund in March.

Gas I have agreed increase as I felt they had reduced DD by too much, it will depend on what the weather does this time & how cold it is. I am still in credit

I don't go hunting cheaper deals, maybe I would be better off but I'm happy with SSE, Customer Service is very good.

i'm with british gas for both gas and electricity - price fixed until 2019 when i'll organise another fixed price period. that's a fixed price per unit.
every now and again - like last winter when we tumble dried everything - we use more electricity and so the monthly direct debit goes up. i pay it knowing that at some point they'll do a review and refund some money.
i've got a smart meter and so i keep track of the daily usage.
my water board put up my payments a year ago as we'd used loads of water last summer (pond sprung a leak so had to be topped up) but we've sorted that out and don't top the pond up - we're on a meter for water too. lo and behold i've recently had a refund of almost £500!!
together with the refund from british gas i can now have the fence to my front garden replaced - it would have taken about two years to save that money!
i don't bother with changing suppliers - too much hassle and i can't be doing with that - i know exactly what i pay each month as i pay all my bills by either standing order or direct debit and the outgoing amount is the same every month. a boon for someone like me with no savings and a low income even if my car and house insurance is slightly more.
so i'll stay with british gas and grumble if the usage and therefore price goes up but i know that i'll probably get a refund when the usage goes down - they're saving for me!

Sorted it out!

Annie1 - come to think of it I believe I emailed E-on initially, saying I was not happy with the increased direct debit and would not agree to it. I believe they phoned me and we it out then. Don't just let them take your money if you think it is unfair. It should be earning interest (such as it is) in your bank - not theirs!

Hi, strange to me to say something positive about energy supplier .... I'm with OVO which was the best deal a year or so ago,

If your account is more than £25 in credit you can ask for a refund. More importantly, they pay 3% interest on any overpayment rising to 5% after three years, which means that money sitting with them gets you far more than any savings account out there; perhaps see it as rainy day money!

I change my fuel suppliers every year,i was with EON when they started the over 60s warm front idea, but then the bills rose considerably, they said i was in debt by £200, although i was paying over £80 a month even in those days,it turned out that i was in credit,left them and went to EDF i was always in credit and got a good rebate of £400, they went up so chsnged again and got almost £400 again, so kept them for another year,was only £150 in credit,although they said they were keeping the same rates,
I am now with Green Star energy but they have just had to pay compensation to thousands of customers because they used a broker, [although i have not had compensation] and i was promised £50 of my first bill by the broker but Green star disputed this and gave me a £25 voucher
Must look at Martyin Lewis again

We are with Scottish Power. Earlier in the year they doubled our DD. Not happy. Paid a one off payment and they reduced DD quite a bit. Taking practical measures to save money. We are on economy 7. So washing machine on overnight timer. Not using tumble drier. And keeping track of our usage on line. We are now well in credit going in to winter. But planning to go on comparison site as I still think our charges are too high.

I am with E.ON and pay only £39 a month because i am away in the winter and par of the cost is covered by my flat service charges for hot water. I told them i would pay any overuse in full snd they agreed. My annual review isnt until next summer and now yhey want to double my charge even though i am 3 months in credit. Phoning them is a nightmare but i have not changed supplier as i am happy with my current plan and better the devil you know....

I have always kept a record of the units used, not the cost. That way I am able to compare actual usage from year to year on a weekly basis. It only takes a minute each week to do this and the computer does the rest.

So while every supplier I have been with at some time tells me I must increase my monthly payments I have been able to contend that their computerised assumptions are false; and I have won. I know when I need to increase my payments and that is based on facts.

Presently with Avro where I submit a monthly set of figures and then get a statement. So far, so good.

I am with Ovo Energy.
They also wanted to increase my monthly direct debit from £70 a month to £85 a month, a huge increase.
When I ring to complain, they always say the same thing.
‘It’s because winter is coming and you need to be in credit”.
I understand that, but such a huge increase is not necessary.
I do regular monthly meter readings too.

I tried switching suppliers, but none of them camn give me a cheaper quote.
The price of energy must have risen considerably.
These energy companies are just plain greedy.

Thanks for this thread. I had an email yesterday from Energy, my daughters supplier, saying they were going to put the DD up by 25% to cover the winter usage. Now I wasn't sure what to do but thinking about it her bills were cleared last winter so I might well dispute it. Its a struggle, I have POA for her finances and I am trying to save some money for her just in case she goes on Universal Credit. Have enough problems looking after my own money. Rant Over, will get another cup of coffee.