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Sweetie222 Sun 11-Nov-18 19:22:29

Shared a taxi with a friend this morning. we were both in the back and as we moved on she declined to put seatbelt on.

I pointed out that if we had a bump an unbelted person in the car was a danger to both of us and the driver. She said it wouldn’t happen but if it did it did.

She reacted as though I was a bit of a wimp, couldn’t seem to grasp that the issue was that even if she wasn’t concerned about her own safety I cared about mine!

AIBU to feel rather angry, with a reluctance to socialise with her any more?

EllanVannin Sun 17-Mar-19 11:52:56

In Australia you're fined on the spot if you don't have your rear seat belt on. This was so in the early 80's.

Witzend Sun 17-Mar-19 09:04:44

I used to drive local oldies who had trouble using public transport to various appts, for shopping, etc.

One old lady had trouble fastening her seat belt and didn't want me to do it for her, though I explained that it was necessary.
She said, 'I'll just hold it,' (!) and proceeded to hold the bit that goes in, next to the bit it goes into.

Needless to say, I had to insist!

NotAGran55 Sun 17-Mar-19 04:27:35

I had a friend who refused to wear a seatbelt because it creased her clothes !

salmino Sun 17-Mar-19 02:31:13

I couldn't find any information there as to whether the law concerning taxis is different, nor whether she could be sued if in the event of an accident other people in the vehicle were hurt because she had not fastened her seat-belt.

salmino Sun 17-Mar-19 01:46:12

I think I'm right in saying the deaths in RTAs were in the thousands per year.

Mycatisahacker Wed 14-Nov-18 12:07:43

Afraid my dd went through a coach window as her teachers hadn’t reinforced the seat belt rule on a trip and many had life changing injuries. One fatality.

No one travels in any car with me without a belt and I would have either forced her to buckle up or refused to drive with her.

You are quite right op. She’s s selfish silly woman.

Floradora9 Tue 13-Nov-18 17:55:11

I was on a bus journey yesterday lasting over an hour. I seemed to be the only person on the bus using a seatbelt . In an accident other passengers could be thrown over me but I was the exception wearing a belt .

Rufus2 Tue 13-Nov-18 11:30:06

the taxi driver didn't insist that she put on her seat belt before setting off.
Every driver here in OZ, has to ensure all passengers are "belted", before setting off. Our 15-seater Council bus that takes us Oldies to the shopping centres is fitted throughout with belts and the driver has to check first. For passenger cars the driver cops any fine for non-compliance by passengers. sad

Blinko Tue 13-Nov-18 10:30:16

I think the statistics tell the story. In the bad old days pre seat belt legislation, I think I'm right in saying the deaths in RTAs were in the thousands per year. Now it's the low hundreds. You can't argue with that.

blanca12 Tue 13-Nov-18 02:19:06

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Jalima1108 Mon 12-Nov-18 19:42:07

Rosina I remember that advert too.
I'm surprised the taxi driver didn't insist that she put on her seat belt before he set off.

Sweetie222 Mon 12-Nov-18 19:06:36

Thanks again for reinforcing that I wasn't being pathetic; although it was a short, low speed journey I know from unfortunate experience that a slow drive five minutes from home doesn't shop someone hitting you .

caci Mon 12-Nov-18 18:10:42

Sorry, pressed enter too soon....You are so right not to share a taxi with your 'friend' ever again.

caci Mon 12-Nov-18 18:09:32

I stopped to give an elderly parent of my BIL a lift. Our son was already in the back of the car, in his car seat, and when 'Bill' got in he front, he didn't fasten his seat belt. I asked him to, and he replied "I'm OK", I responded with "You may think you're OK, but what about the rest of us in this car ?" He still refused, so I asked him to get out of my car ! He got out... sometimes people feel the need to make their point, and mine was "No-one rides in my car without a seat belt on"

sodapop Mon 12-Nov-18 16:20:42

I think the issue of fines is immaterial, your friend is putting three people at risk
sweetie222 and I would not travel with her. A real friend would not risk your safety.

Judie Mon 12-Nov-18 15:54:21

Over the age of 14 the passenger themselves are liable for the fines for not wearing a seatbelt.i personally would not go in a car with someone who wont wear one .

Deedaa Mon 12-Nov-18 15:21:58

Rosina I remember that ad! I thought it was very effective, the accident came as such a shock -as it would in real life!

nonnasusie Mon 12-Nov-18 14:45:08

In Italy seatbelts are supposed to be compulsory but many people ignore the rule especially in the back of the car ! Don't get me started on the number of children loose in the car, standing in the rear between the seats , on adults laps in the front etc. It makes my blood boil when I see it and Italy is supposed to be a nation that loves children!! Huh!!

Tweedle24 Mon 12-Nov-18 14:40:53

I, as driver, have refused to start the car until all seatbelts are fastened; I have no wish to have my passenger barrelling into my head if I have to break sharply. I see that London black cabs have a notice saying the driver will not take passengers unless they are buckled in.

Nanny41 Mon 12-Nov-18 14:27:47

Why are some people so obstinate.Where e live in another Country one is supposed to wear seatbelts on buses, there is even a flashing light wth a seat belt on it, before the driver drives away, but there is always someone defying the law and think they are above the law. If a bus crashes then people till be flung all over the place causing even more chaos, do these people think they are immortal?

SueDoku Mon 12-Nov-18 14:23:04

I've never forgotten this advert:

youtu.be/mKHY69AFstE

Along with the death of my friend's Mother when we were 12 and she went through the windscreen and was killed because she wasn't wearing her seatbelt, it's made me fanatical about refusing to drive anyone who won't wear one.

Rosina Mon 12-Nov-18 14:15:34

'Back of his mother's head' - sorry, useless typist!

Rosina Mon 12-Nov-18 14:14:56

I remember a really shocking road safety ad on TV some years ago, showing a mother driving her children. There was a collision and the biggish boy in the back seat - unbelted - came forehead and his face struck the back of his mother's and killed her. He didn't look too good either - it was really graphic and disturbing to watch, and perhaps ought to be shown if there are enough stupid people out there refusing to wear a belt. I found belts restrictive for a while when they were first introduced, but now I would feel vulnerable and unsafe without one.

grandtanteJE65 Mon 12-Nov-18 14:06:48

Point out to her that the use of seat belts is compulsory in the UK (and in most other European countries) and that she will be fined if the car is stopped by the police. That is abundantly clear from www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law

I couldn't find any information there as to whether the law concerning taxis is different, nor whether she could be sued if in the event of an accident other people in the vehicle were hurt because she had not fastened her seat-belt.

I feel like many others here that you are fully justified in refusing to share a car or taxi with her unless she is prepared to use a seat-belt.

HurdyGurdy Mon 12-Nov-18 14:01:10

NAughtyNanna - "this person will become a lethal projectile inside the vehicle". Exactly what I was thinking.

I remember the Jimmy Savil advertising campaign for "clunk click every trip" where in one of adverts he said "the car may have come to an abrupt halt, but you, inside the car, are still moving at 30mph"

You get hit by 10 stone of moving human being, give or take a few stone - and you're going to get hurt.

Sweetie222 - depending on how good a friend she is, I would definitely refuse to travel in a car with her again, but not necessarily drop the friendship.