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Sanitary products in hospitals

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Esspee Sun 03-Mar-19 07:37:36

I was shocked to read today that sanitary products are NOW going to be supplied in hospitals in England on the NHS.

Surely that is a basic necessity for women in hospital. Why has it not been challenged before now?

FarNorth Fri 08-Mar-19 12:59:29

I meant general appeals for money for the NHS. It could do with some and those rich people who buy designer handbags & posh cars could probably bung it a few quid.

knickas63 Fri 08-Mar-19 12:45:19

UrmstonGran - may be ok for you - but for many it would be an issue. Most people coming in for a planned procedure would allow for this, but if you are brought in unexpectedly, it could be necessary, certainly more necessary than a man's razor! There is also the issue of the fact that many at the poorer end of society struggle to afford these basics. Especially the out of work, sick, low paid and homeless. And I work for finance in the NHS, so not keen to chuck money around unecessarily! This comes under ensuring basic dignity.

maryeliza54 Fri 08-Mar-19 09:44:56

FarNorth the money it is going to cost is tiny. When they are provided free it will be no hassle for ward staff to give them out when women request them - no questions need to be asked.
The DM campaign did not recruit volunteers - it was to encourage people to apply to their local trusts to be volunteers. They would then be interviewed, police checked and trained. I wonder how successful it actually was? It’s unlikely the fruits of the campaign if any have filtered through yet anyway.

notanan2 Fri 08-Mar-19 09:25:58

"What about if surgery has caused bleeding?"

Neither tampons nor slim line pads would be appropriate for that sort of vaginal bleeding.

FarNorth Fri 08-Mar-19 09:07:51

The Daily Mail managed to recruit a huge gang of volunteers to help the NHS at Xmas. www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6456701/amp/More-11-000-people-sign-NHS-volunteers-three-days.html
(Wonder how that went)

Maybe appeals for money is the way to go, next?
No extra hassle for hard-worked ward staff, with that.

FarNorth Fri 08-Mar-19 09:02:34

Having worked as a nursing auxiliary, I'd say maryeliza's got it right.
That's exactly how it would be.

SparklyGrandma Fri 08-Mar-19 02:40:43

What about if surgery has caused bleeding? Or a woman’s period starts unexpectedly?

I have had both happen it’s good that sanitary protection is now going to be provided.

maryeliza54 Thu 07-Mar-19 17:56:17

Don’t get me started on how charging for hospital meals would be even more cost effective 😱

Chewbacca Thu 07-Mar-19 17:42:09

.......or a worse case scenario

annep1 Thu 07-Mar-19 17:29:40

Very well summarised MaryEliza

maryeliza54 Thu 07-Mar-19 12:11:55

So ditzy how exactly is that going to work? Busy staff instead of just going to the cupboard and giving out SP, ask several questions to determine the eligibility or otherwise of the woman’s need to receive free SP ( meanwhile womsn having stuffed toilet paper in her knickers bleeds onto sheets which staff then have to change). Having established that the woman’s partner is coming in tomorrow, Staff then ask how many pads women needs until husband arrives, then goes to cupboard to get required number ( of course woman may be lying re menstrual flow so to be on safe side just gives woman one pad at a time - when woman needs a fresh pad she can ring the emergency bell in the toilet and a member of staff, having nothing else to do, will immediately appear and provide SP - however, she will of course have to establish again that woman is entitled to receive the SP) Then husband fails to bring in supplies next day ( he was busy taking children to school, nursery, etc) . However he gives his wife money to purchase SP. Hospital shop is closed so ward can sell SP to woman. Staff fetch SP from cupboard and find pretty cash box and cash book. Woman then pays for SP - staff write it in the book and provide receipt. There’s not enough change so staff has to ask around colleagues for change for a £2 coin. Then staff have to lock up book and box in designated drawer and replace key in appropriate place. Unfortunately in the middle of doing this, a patient needs urgent care and key is not put back in right place. Next day staff spend 40 minutes ( luckily they are not busy) hunting for key as woman needs to buy another pad. So yes, that will all work brilliantly and be a super efficient use of staff resources compared with the really really stupid idea of having a range of SP in a cupboard that staff access for women who are menstruating.

ditzyme Thu 07-Mar-19 10:43:33

I agree with Chewbacca that the hospital shouldn't be expected to provide sanitary ware free, except in an emergency. The one group of women who should be given them are those who have no family or friends visiting who can bring these items into hospital.

annep1 Thu 07-Mar-19 08:29:52

Anyway to get back to the point, sorry everyone, I'm glad they are being supplied.

dizzyblonde Thu 07-Mar-19 04:58:38

This is beginning to sound like a couple of toddlers arguing.

notanan2 Wed 06-Mar-19 23:44:59

Then why are you being rude and hostile to me?

annep1 Wed 06-Mar-19 22:48:00

You didn't just reiterate your point. I know what sarcasm is and I know that you know you used it. My last reply. I hate people being rude.

notanan2 Wed 06-Mar-19 21:26:42

My statements were true. A sarcastic sentence is one that is obviously the opposite of true. HTH.

notanan2 Wed 06-Mar-19 21:21:17

"thread"

notanan2 Wed 06-Mar-19 21:20:52

1. To make that sentence sarcastic you would need to remove the "aren't".

2. Not my fault you didn't read the tread properly before replying @ me. I haven't been rude, I've just reiterated my point in reply.

annep1 Wed 06-Mar-19 19:17:34

Notanan
Um....yes. It was a rhetorical question used very sarcastically and rude. Not nice. Its one of the things rhat puts people off posting.

notanan2 Wed 06-Mar-19 09:44:10

This definitely sounds like sarcasm to me. It did not add to the discussion.
Um no that would be a rhetorical question not sarcasm....

annep1 Wed 06-Mar-19 06:25:04

Definitely not Bathsheba. But much better than I got in Alicante. I remember one morning we were all looking out the ward doors starving wondering where the breakfast trolley was with our mini roll and sachet of olive oil - (not marmalade as I had thought) Apologies for going offthread but the memory just returned.

annep1 Wed 06-Mar-19 06:17:24

I mean emergency rooms and operating theatres aren't stocking them so that people can look dapper are they?
This definitely sounds like sarcasm to me. It did not add to the discussion.

Bathsheba Tue 05-Mar-19 22:45:03

Would be a waste of money time and lives to start charging for food. People wont heal/recover if they are skimping on their food to avoid a bill!

Last time I was in hospital, a couple of years ago, I can only thank heavens it was for 24 hours, as the food supplied was truly diabolical. Breakfast was a cup of weak tea and one slice of toast, meagrely spread with margarine. Dinner was a one egg omelette, and 3 small boiled potatoes, followed by a small pot of jelly. Tea was a limp cheese sandwich and a weak cup of tea. I wouldn't call that a diet designed to aid healing and recovery, would you? I would willingly contribute financially in order to be better fed.

notanan2 Tue 05-Mar-19 20:22:44

I havent been sarcastic annepl. Razers are essential in emergencies for attaching electrodes or cannulas etc. That is why they are always stocked.

What can a union do if the carpark isnt owned or run by the employer?