Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

We lived in another country not too far from from the UK for a few years and I have never been made to feel so isolated and unwelcome - yet as a friend and neighbour I had a lot to offer.

I do agree with this comment. I live in London and welcome the diversity of the city which changes and develops constantly keeping us all "alive".

People moan about Londoners as if they are a different species, yes we have people from all over the world living in my street and we talk to each other and have summer street parties as well. Glad I don’t live in some rural backwater where the locals moan about all the grockles ( I did live in Devon) .

We can hardly complain about the lack of buses when we choose to live in the countryside as NIMBYs. Welcome your share of our steeply rising population and you may have a bus into town every 15 minutes.

Life is changing for everyone. We have to 'suck it up'. Nothing to be done about it.

Maybe your poor NE seaside town could do with some incomers gilly to liven it up and improve the economy!

Look at Margate - definitely moribund until outsiders such as the Turner Gallery and arty trendies moved in. There's always criticism of everything being London-centric but then hostility if people dare venture to different parts of the country.

Seems to me everyone wants to live in my bit of the South-East these days. Why they spruce up the North? Make it more liveable in?

the post which is quite a long way down/up the thread now

gilly

Eurgh! Shudder!!! (that to all that 'community' stuff in TerriBull's post)

I don't mind people moving into my village, I don't have the right, because I did the same thing over thirty years ago, following my then husband and working in the local school. People who move in are entitled to take a role in the local community and many contribute a great deal.

What I don't like are people buying up property for holiday homes and rarely staying in them, turning some of the prettiest places into ghost villages. My village isn't quaint, most of the houses are new-build, and it is full of families.
But it is being hit by property speculators, who are building houses on every tiny piece of land they can get their hands on, and yes, it is the original inhabitants who are selling their back gardens, vegetable patches, paddocks and fields. (Modern properties have very little land.)

I too agree with BlueBelle, we do not own our towns and villages, anyone has a right to live anywhere. I do take the point about young families being unable to stay-in their local area, but for about ten years we lived in a village where Prices were high , but time and time again the parish council put a block on building affordable housing, every time a plot of land came up for building, it would always be four to five bed homes, out of reach to locals, so I feel a lot of these problems could be avoided if people weren’t so precious about their villages

You could probably buy my estate for the cost of a “London house” thankfully they wouldn’t come here though, as we don’t “do” champagne and oyster bars darling.....and they probably couldn’t understand the lingo anyway....phew....

Hooray for living in a poor NE seaside town. Almost everyone here is born and bred Geordie and long may it continue

Government cuts have affected everywhere - nowhere has enough key workers- so to blame it solely on wealthy incomers is disingenuous

Nobody said it was the sole factor.

But c'mon be honest here, if you were a young teacher or nurse, and there were vacancies everywhere, where will you pick? The place with the London house prices but no london pay? Or somewhere where you can actually live within an hours commute of your job?

"800,000" people of English birth living in Scotland, I have no idea how many Scots living in England, but I'd hazard a guess and say possibly more than that number so fair exchange. My next door but one is a Scot, as indeed are other people I've met on life's journey. Quite honestly people don't give a second thought as to where people emanate from here, it's how we get on with each other and our neighbour is just fine. He comes from Glasgow and loves living in England, with an English wife, particularly as we don't suffer from sectarianism and guess what his English neighbours talk to him!!! Who'd have thought that stuck up, snobby southerners talking to their neighbours, oh and we are a pretty multi national lot round here, my immediate neighbour is Iranian, on our development we also have Irish, Welsh, Malaysian, Japanese, French, Danish, Dutch, Swedish, Indian, Muslims, Italian, Colombian, Armenian I know this because we have garden parties and barbecues in our communal grounds in the summer and Christmas drinks around a communal tree and BLOODY HELL these people, even the English ones talk to EACH OTHER how amazing is that

Government cuts have affected everywhere - nowhere has enough key workers- so to blame it solely on wealthy incomers is disingenuous .

There are many areas in the country where prices are too high for local young people to buy. When we lived in a village in Gloucestershire (not the Cotswolds) local young people usually moved to a nearby town with a lot of new build, more affordable houses.

As they progressed some could afford to move back and did but others moved on to different places.

In the village we live now in Oxfordshire the local 'squire' owns about 30 houses. He lets them to locals at affordable rents. They usually live in them all their lives and then the tenancy is passed to a younger member of the family.Hence there is a large core of local families .

It is a difficult situation and I don't think there is a right answer. In the days of council housing it was a lot easier for young locals to stay in the area.

Show me somewhere where there are enough police, nurses, teachers, doctors etc - I think government cuts have something to do with that , not the “ incomers”.

A place can experience more than one phenomenon at a time you know!

Have you seen the price of houses in London?

Exactly. Thats what it means. Ppl who bought in London & their house prices shot up & they sell to buy in a cheaper part of the country. Either to release equity to retire early or to buy a bigger home etc

Some places the country community they saught no longer exists and they find themselves living in an ex london bubble of disillusionment..

I know a few areas like that. There are no workers living there at all its become all ex london owners. Not a very balanced community at all.. and big issues with getting key workers who cant live there to work there so services shut down.

Paddyann I do not know where you got your figures from but in 2017 there were 477,000 immigrants in total living in Scotland - about 9% and they were from all countries not just England.
When we lived in Scotland the biggest compliment we were paid was that they did not think of us as being English! I couldn't wait to leave!

What about the lack of social housing? I think again, you can’t blame the incomers for all those policies.

Show me somewhere where there are enough police, nurses, teachers, doctors etc - I think government cuts have something to do with that , not the “ incomers”.

London money?? Have you seen the price of houses in London? I am lucky because we bought years ago before it all went crazy but my three kids don't stand a chance of living in London.
It's always been my dream to move to the country but I am swiftly changing my mind. If I arrived with my 'London money' it seems I would not be very welcome!

Many of us are related, .....

Says it all