Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

NOT everybody who retires to a village or the seaside necessarily wades in à la Lynda Snell to run everything from the WI to the PCC. Nor do they necessarily seek to change the environment they have chosen (all that nonsense about complaining about church bells or cockerels)
What many do try to do is to become integrated in the community, feeling that a) they may have something to give , b) it is a good way to meet people and c) as retirees they may have time on their hands for volunteering etc. They will be spending money in their area which can help boost the economy, and they may have very valid reasons for choosing their home.
This blanket condemnation of all and sundry to have the temerity to move to a rural area is distinctly broad brush distasteful, stand offish and NIMBY
Not an attitude to be proud of

Another point is that, if there are few large employers then young people will move away to seek work.

We are not talking about them though. We are talking about the people who DO work in the area, who can no longer live in it.

A previously mixed generational mixed income area becoming an exclusive ex london retirement "hub" isnt natural ebb and flow where its all win-win

People are being goady and disingenuous now by refusing to acknowledge that it is problematic to chose to move into a community and then immediately set out to change that community because you know better than insular inbred morris dancing country folk to quote this thread

Or. As has also happened where I live, move in then object to any infrastructure modernisations that the community needs to accomodate raising numbers such as widening of country roads etc because your view (in your newly build/extended/converted "dream house") matters more than the practical needs of the people trying to make a living in the area. God forbit the community dare to be anything but a picturesque museum of tweeness for you!

And sweet jesus.... being pushed out of your home broadens your mind? Are people for real?

These influxes REDUCE diversity they dont increase it. Making an area "exclusive" isn't mind broadening.

Love how everyone completely glosses over the RENTERS affected and thinks all locals this happens to are skipping off to the bank when 2 ajoining semis are bought and knocked through so that now instead of 2 families having homes, theres one "dream home" etc...

Holiday homes are a different issue altogether, though, patcaf and your point is well made.

However, the OP is talking about folks who have retired to their holiday paradise land - the paradise where she lives where the area is predominantly rural, with few large employers generating good incomes and thus pension pots are often low..

Another point is that, if there are few large employers then young people will move away to seek work. Older retirees moving to the area may bring much-needed income to the area if they shop locally, use local tradesmen etc.

Got it now.

Callistemon, no I was making a playful reply to Maw's comment about why older people might be attending an oversubscribed school.

Oh it really went belly-up round 'ere when them ol' Romans came with their fancy roads an' bridges an' readin' an' writin'. What have they ever done for us eh?

It is not just a matter of pricing out local people. Around us some 65% of houses are holiday homes which are only used a few times a year. As I walk my dog down to the beach , most of the houses I pass are unoccupied which destroys the local community. Local shops and trades cannot survive due to lack of business. Yes, it is local people selling the houses for as much as they can get, and who can blame them; but it does change the whole area and forces young people to move away due to lack of rental, no jobs, impossible to get on housing ladder.
When these owners visit, they bring everything with them so do not spend money locally. There is nothing anyone can do except accept that life changes but I can understand why people get angry.

Sign of the time Callistemon there are so many more bars and restaurants than there used to be. Who are the people using them all week? Can't be the young because we keep reading they are too hard up to pay rent of buy a property

You may be right, although some old pubs now bistros near us have more than doubled the prices!

Callistemon some of those apply in cities too! Apparently when new build flats were built in a city next door to a loud evening venue the people who bought them applied to have the venue's licence removed because of the noise!

I might also defend the change from pub to bistro or tea rooms to coffee shops if it is the only way they can survive. Probably though tea rooms might do better than coffee shops these days, especially if they serve home made cakes. Just pondering not disagreeing.

Back to the English people in Scotland point, there are probably more Scottish people in England!!
Not that this bothers me at all?

I chose to retire to a suburb of a small commercial city.

The northern seaside village where I used to live is now a very expensive to buy a house or rent one. The three small village grocers have gone and have become cafes for the summer visitors. The village bank has gone and become a house. The post office has gone. When I lived there it was a community where each individual had a place.

When we lived in Devon, we tried to fit in and were accepted and loved living there.
A couple who moved in nearby ( a very small village) were also incomers, and enthusiastic, they joined committees and were too ‘forward’ which engendered some dark mutterings, so although it’s good to offer to help, the best advice is not to give the impression that you are taking over.

Callistemon we may have stayed in the same holiday home!
In ‘Near Sawrey’ opposite the Beatrix Potter house, and we had some lovely walks from the door there.?

I’m wondering what are these “city ways” that will offend rural dwellers? Might be helpful to know so we don’t offend.
Well, crystaltipps where shall I start
Don't move into a house near the village church then moan about the bells ringing.
Don't complain to the farmer/neighbour/whoever owns a cockerel that it wakes you too early and you want it put down
Don't buy a house near the village school then complain about parents' parking or children shouting in the playground
Don't try turning the cosy country pub into a trendy bistro-type eaterie
or the quaint tea rooms into an upmarket coffee shop
Don't take over the village committees/gardening club etc and try to change everything
Don't moan about tractors driving slowly along the road
Or muck spreading in the next field

And DO NOT buy the largest house on the edge of the village then start a campaign to stop anyone else building homes for locals.

Apart from that, enjoy rural life.

We stayed somewhere a few doors away from Beatrix Potter's house, SueDonim, there is a lovely walk near there up to a tarn but I can't remember its name.

Are you saying it is wrong for old people to get together, to keep their brains working, their bodies mobile, Lily65?

The old people will all want to use the school for their U3A madness? possibly?
We usually use rooms at leisure centres, village halls, meeting rooms etc which would otherwise be empty for most of the time therefore not bringing in an income.
We like to think it keeps them going

I’m wondering what are these “city ways” that will offend rural dwellers? Might be helpful to know so we don’t offend.

Nonnie I'd say Londoners, who comprise people from all over this country and around the world are a mixed bunch just like any other region. I'm sorry you judged me so judgemental, perhaps I could have been gentler, but I read your comment that he had never met his neighbours as a criticism of them, when we know that it takes both to make the effort. Too often London comes under criticism for "nobody talks to you" type of comment. And to further answer your accusation that I had never lived in a flat, the first house I ever lived in was as a married woman, but you felt happy to judge me on that assumption of yours. I think I'll stay off Gransnet for a while.

Do you live in Royston Vasey? Lol

Welcome to GN, Ms. Back.

The old people will all want to use the school for their U3A madness? possibly?

MawBroonsback I presume they affect the schools by buying the houses so that families can't buy them so the number of children get less and in my case some of the newcomers joined every committee going and changed the dynamics of the village and not for the better. City ways don't always fit in a village!

Maw perhaps because they don't have school age children and therefore roll numbers are less than if someone younger lived in the home?