Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

In response to paddyann
“The main problem we have with English folk”!!! I am appalled at your bitterness against the English yet again! Not all of us North of the border think that it is “we and they” like you! Why is there such an issue with “English” settlers, but not the Irish, Welsh, Polish, Pakistani, Indian etc. “settlers” who also live with us in Scotland!
My mother was English and she met my father in Portsmouth, whilst both were in the forces during the war! You know, WW2, that all parts of the U.K. suffered during and took part in!! She was one of your “white settlers” when she married my father and moved back to Scotland with him.
People have a right to retire wherever they like! It might be frustrating that they buy the houses that locals would like to, but don’t have the money compared to these retirees! However, they can often bring their own enthusiasm and ideas which, if listened to and nurtured, can benefit the whole community!

O well that's life, never mind lol (Laughing out loud) ;-)

I find it quite frustrating when a ‘poster’ doesn’t reveal where they live or at least give a clue - which country would be a start. And yes, I too think it is a selfish attitude and surely outdated to think you ‘own’ your village. The world is on loan to us all - treat all aspects well.

Wow. People like you really do exist. How sad.

Lollypolly I have many friends ...and a son in law who moved here from other parts of the UK .I really only have a problem with the ones who think they can move their rules and laws with them.The huge NO TRESPASS signs or Private road signs aren't what we're used to and I've even been threatened by one man and his big dog for walking on "his" land.We have the right to roam and no amount of signs will stop us.
There are of course some who moved so they can avail themselves of "free" uni places for their children,one or two who live beside my daughter who talk us down and say they'll move back as soon as their children have finished their education as its "so parochial" in Scotland and there are "no opportunities".Pisses me right off!!

Good enough to gain an education but not good enough to stay and use it here and help to build our country !!

I have one friend who came here about 7 years ago and she teaches Scottish history and is passionate about it..in fact the history is the whole reason she came here as she had written books about Wallace and The Bruce .I'm happy to welcome anyone who wants to live in what I consider the BEST country in not just the UK but the world ,but only if their reasons are the right ones and not selfish, taking without giving in return .

I’m always irritated by those signs which say “Please drive carefully through OUR village “ it always sets me off on a rant!

Well said ?

I meant to say well said BlueBelle, best comment ?

I'm very sympathetic towards Specs. They are real problems. For nearly forty years, I've lived in a rural part of the north of England. It has changed immensely over that time. Change is inevitable, but it is galling when new arrivals wax lyrical about how wonderful the place is, but fail to appreciate how it got to be that way. Newcomers start agitating for changes that undermine the very thing they claim to like. Some are even so hypocritical as to condemn people coming from other places only a year or two after they have arrived. Yes, it is good for talented newcomers to help to organise things, but it is sad if the accumulated wisdom from long time residents is lost. And divisions between affluent newcomers and poorly paid locals is not good for society.

Chucky I dont know anyone of any other race who lives here who sticks No Trespass signs up at the end of their road ,its a particularly English thing . My Italian ,German,french,Slovanian,Croatian, Dutch friends dont do it .Its a thing that seems to be "english" Isn't it the way of ex pats on the Costas? Maybe we're just unlucky in the ones who do come ,they want to keep their rules while enjoying a different country

All places change over time. I have lived in more or less the same area for over 40 years. The town we moved to 40 years ago is almost unrecognisable now. It always was a thriving place but so many more people there, more traffic, more coffee shops. It’s not a coastal village, rural retreat nor London. Just another town which has changed overtime. Walking along the riverbank now I pass lots of people. I estimate one in 3 isn’t speaking English but that’s how things are now. I guess wherever you live times change. Population grows.

Only read the first two pages so sorry if I'm repeating what anyone else has said.

Life is unfair! Why would any of us expect things to stay the same and never change? Homes are being sold all over the country and prices increasing in most areas. Someone is buying them and that includes young people, yes, even in London. There will always be people who cannot afford to buy or cannot afford to buy the property they want but that is the way it has always been. This feels like yet another baby boomer bashing to me. If people have worked hard and accumulated assets why shouldn't they live where they want to live? I have never moved somewhere where I have been made to feel like an outsider so I hope I don't ever go to where the OP lives, it sounds intolerant. Perhaps people are nice when speaking to the newbies but not so nice when speaking about them?

I agree completely with Bluebelle I am finding this thread very depressing.

Change can be difficult but it's necesarry, I welcome people from different backgrounds and cultures. Surely people coming in with new ideas, is a good thing. We can get very stale if we always do the same things in the same ways. Not everyone wants to spend their whole life in the place they were born.

I don't understand wanting to move right away from all your family & friends when you get older.
Surely that is when you have more time to socialise & you will know all the clubs etc. in your area that may interest you.
I have lived in Surrey all my life- I am now about 15 miles from where I was born & my Mum & Dad were born.
I have friends from when I was at Primary school - real long term friends who know all about me & still speak to me!!
Really good friends.
OK - so Surrey is really pretty & you can get into London very easily if you want to - I rarely do.
I don't want all the bother of moving & having to start all over again. Plus DGC are only 20 mins away from here so we see them a lot & they love staying over which they couldn't do if it meant 3-4 hour car ride.
Stay put & visit the rest of the country for holidays.

What is different today is the ever increasing rate of change, it is happening very fast now, previously people had time to assimilate `strangers` Not just in vallages or market towns either but large areas of various cities have quickly changed

Excellent comment BlueBelle.

BlueBelle and EthelJ ?

When I lived in London over 30 years ago I asked my elderly neighbour if she minded all the 'yuppies' moving in to the neighbourhood, but she told me she was delighted - we (the incomers) were kind and friendly and helped her with tasks in her house and garden. Fast forward 30 years and in the rural village where I now live there are new families moving in. When I arrived here - where my husband's family had lived for over 300 years - the area was nothing but retirees however several families with young children have now moved in and they are great - they take an interest in the village. They had a street party last summer and they pick up litter and we have a village WhatsApp group. We have a great mixture now as retirees have died/moved and their places have been taken by much younger people who are not necessarily country people but their children will be.

Surely the integration of cultures and traditions, are what have made this country what we are. We will be unable to prevent the future enveloping us all, it is known as "progress".

One of the main reasons I won’t be retiring to the country. I always thought there was an element of ‘you’re an outsider’ thing going on, this thread has confirmed it.
I’ll stay in London where everyone is welcome. ( & the shops & services are a million times better )

I’m surprised anyone would want to move into an area like yours, being so unwelcoming. Do you think that there is anywhere local people can afford to buy easily, if so please let us know. Up & down the country young people struggle to buy a home. It’s not just older people moving into rural areas, terrible that in their latter years with no work commitments they can enjoy their lives in nice surroundings. Even if not welcomed by what sounds like years of inbreeding. What about second home owners? Do you complain about them? In our village that’s who we are blighted by. In our local village one complete street is holiday or second homes, walk along it in winter evenings not a sign of life in any of the homes. But I’d rather live her3 than your village

Wow, I feel guilty. Was brought up in London commuter belt, moved from there in early 70s. I've lived all over England in 8 different counties, town centre and rural.
I've always found most places a mix of born there or come-to-work-in-that-area. I loved living near the sea, and when kids moved out, I found a job near the sea, and am now retired.
It is 2019, but I didn't realise I was so very weird, and so unwanted!!

Well, Paddyann, I am one of the 'white settlers' having moved up to the Highlands from London in 1974 because of a skills shortage in the local population.
Apparently, according to the Scottish parliament, Scotland is not racist; my experience is that it is if you aren't English.
I get the impression that you are in favour of independence; bear in mind that the entire population of Scotland is approximately 4 million less than that of London. How will independence be financed? The oil and gas are running out and the companies that exploit the gas and oil fields are mostly owned by non British organisations.
The SNP are deluded.

Made a mistake - Scotland isn't racist unless you are English.

So in the Sunday times today a magazine about the 48 best places to move to and live in Britain.. be very afraid if you live in one of these places

I do live in one of these places and what the article fails to mention is that the schools are oversubscribed and can't accept any more; the narrow lanes are congested with parked cars, leading to a high percentage of vehicles being damaged by passing cars and the "beautiful rolling fields" have just been designated for more housing to be built! And articles like the one in The Times leads to property proces being hiked up still further due to its desirability.