Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

Wow why shouldn't people no matter who they are live where they want I feel for immigrants if this is any thing to go by

But why do you assume Specs that there is no good reason for moving into the area- years of happy holidays, personal links, friends or family members nearby?

Nice to hear back from you Specs
Would you care to share where you live? Lily65 has her sweepstake bet on Filey?

Sorry folks I haven’t come back to the thread as I’ve been out all day.
The amount of responses and points of view are quite amazing. I’ve obviously put my foot in it and been, for many people, offensive and very politically incorrect.
We can all have our own private thoughts and I expressed mine based on observations .
All who responded are perfectly entitled to their own thoughts and points of view. As is everyone in this country a free person and entitled to live wherever their desires and employment take them.
I did ask Why do people retire to an area they have little connection with?
Thank you to those who sought to enlighten and educate me. It is a question I have often considered and I feel quite humbled by a few of the comments. It has certainly made me think hard about the whole issue of rapidly changing communities.
I would like to apologise if my words came across in a very ham fisted way. My private thoughts are not my public actions. I have never been unkind or ungenerous to newcomers. Most people in this area go out of their way to welcome, this includes knocking on the front door, introducing our selves and taking a food offering etc.
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Fifteen years ago my nephew's GCSE maths teacher was travelling around M25 for the pleasure of teaching him. She travelled round a quarter of the motorway in the morning and a quarter back in evening. She had a car accident after a term or two, and gave the job up. So he had no maths teacher.
Key workers have to live somewhere, and are often not well-paid enough to commute long distances (and may work hours too unsociable for public transport)

We are selling up and moving to a small seaside town later this year from a large city. Reading the opening post I can now understand why my dear friend who is now in her 70s has so many problems making friends with locals. She moved to a very small town near where we are going 10 years ago to be near her son and daughter and her only friends are people who have retired and relocated to the countryside. It doesn't bother me or OH as we are quite self contained people anyway but the resentment from the opening poster is quite shocking.

SueDonim

About fifteen years ago a plot of land in our village was sold to developers for affordable housing for keyworkers. Sixteen semis were built. The land had belonged to a late farming friend of ours who was very community minded and wanted the small estate to benefit those who could not afford the inflated prices of housing in the Cambridge catchment area. We went to the open day and chatted to nurses, carers and teaching assistants who were being shown around.

The houses were all snapped up.

Fast forward to now.....House prices rose dramatically before the 2008 crash and most of these houses were sold on. I keep an eye on Right Move out of nosiness and they're still changing hands with not a mention of keyworkers. They are priced at the current market value.

So is a 'keyworker' priority a golden opportunity for people to get on the housing market and make a quick profit?

Paddyann in 40 years of living mainly in Scotland I cannot think I have ever once seen a 'no trespassing sign'.

I wonder what it is that makes people in your area erect such signs? Maybe there's a certain person they wish to keep out.

You have to bear in mind the mindset of the person writing the article

True, janeainsworth

Son had to find a rental in London when he moved there for work a few years ago. I'd read about Brixton being 'up and coming' trendy', 'lively'' 'the place to be', etc.

Places can have all the trendy artisan shops and coffee bars in the world but they tend to retain their sleazy underbelly, if they had one to start with. One evening after looking at a rental property in Brixton son had bottles thrown at him by a gang congregated under a bridge, and the next time he ventured there to see a band, there was a fight outside every bar he used and he and his friends felt intimidated by threatening language.

Sometimes a nice place has a veneer which fools some people (writers/researchers) who fail to look at the whole picture or hang around for any length of time.

A million miles away from South London, a couple we know are leaving the idyllic (looking) little SW village they retired to because it's too quiet and there are few facilities.

Sometimes you have to make the best of the place you live. Things like the Times list have us imagining everywhere is better than the place we call home.

Interesting to see the words Key Workers. When we were young marrieds, recently returned from nearly 3 years in sunny California, we lived in a new town. Key workers, nurses, police, fire service workers, teachers etc were given cheap housing. The rent was very low and the house was well maintained. We only left it when I stopped being a key worker and became a mother and we bought our first house. I wish people today could benefit from this. A lovely temporary teacher recently left DGS's school because she couldn't afford to live here, though a permanent job was on offer. Houses are going up here in the S.E. in every available space, but no affordable housing, council or otherwise.

Might have been interesting if the OP had come back to see if the pot she stirred had boiled !!

Yes indeed. One wonders is it someone out there poking "the oldies" with a stick for a reaction - or a researcher/journo needing stories about retiree migration or the way we feel about 'outsiders'.

Maybe they want want us all to be rich, set in our ways, racist, intolerant, reactionary, stupid, uninformed etc. It's the way we have been painted by many, Remainers especially - given some people have mentioned Brexit.

I hope it's not some pensioner-bashing project.

OP, where are you?

School fete!

The school fate story is awful. That would really bother me

Read your eighteenth and nineteenth century novels. It was always the case that young people had to leave for the big city to make their money. They would then return to buy in their village.

It's the attitude they bring.

Salcombe is a lovely town in a particularly beautiful part of South Devon, South Hams, I believe there are a lot of second homers there who patronise the town in the summer, well that was what we were told when we were there a few years ago. Come winter it's a different story one of the locals told us.

We live in the middle of the Northumberland National Park, the park puts a covenant on all new homes built stating that it can’t be a second home and you must either work or belong Northumberland. Some of the previous council houses have the same rules. Whilst it means we are not inundated with ‘outsiders’ it makes it difficult for those who would like to move away from the area as they are limited who they can sell to

* Jaqui* I don’t think it is quite like that.
It is just that the new homes must be lived in permanently, and it only applies where there are already 20% of the homes already not permanently occupied. Also it’s the County Council’s policy as part of their Local Plan, nothing to do with the National Park.
So there is nothing to stop someone retiring to Northumberland, as long as the Northumberland home is their principal residence. They don’t have to have previous ties with the county. It’s true that when they sell, the property can’t be sold as a second home though.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/second-homes-battle-goes-county-wide-1-9190069/amp

Thank goodness we still have freedom of choice! Some comments expressed here made me feel literally sick. I feel sorry for the unsuspecting retirees who dare to move to some of your areas .......

Then again ...... look on the plus side ....... gives you something to complain about ......

I would like the poster further up the thread who suggests we spruce up our northern industrial towns to come and see what they actually look like.
There are certain areas of our town that are virtually no go areas. Some areas certainly do not take care of their houses. The windows are dirty, curtains are cloth just stretched across the window. The back alleys have rubbish just dumped in them. The pavement outside there hose is never swept. And the litter is horrendous.
As for our wondrous council and their attitude towards building new houses, it is absolutely unbelievable. There is a piece of land not far from where I live, and there is a derelict mill on it, there are builders who are interested in building on it, but firstly the council wanted them to keep part of the chimney. Then they said that the mill was built on top of an old work house and that was of archeological interest.Who the hell cares about that! I remember when the older people of the town wouldn't go into the local hospital because that used to be work house, and that's where you went to die.
There are brownfield sites but they tend to be in the cheaper areas where there are a high proportion people whose homes are very neglected, and a lot of people won't buy in those areas.
It is an extremely difficult problem.

Do people remember, years ago, there was a spate of houses being burned in Wales, which belonged to holiday makers?

I imagine they had exactly the same concerns, hich I think are valid. I feel very sorry for locals if they are priced out of the homes market by people from outside using a home as a second base, a few times a year.

If people choose to retire and live in an area I can't see any problem as long as they are putting their money into local shops, restaurants, pubs, transport etc. I'd imagine people using things keeps them going, keeps them open?

If OP you are saying only homes for sale should go to locals - well, why don't they buy them? Because the prices are too high? That isn't the pensioners problem though, is it? Affordable housing is something your local council should address.

Incomers can help an economy to thrive.

Personally I'd hope people moving into a new area would get involved and attempt to become part of a community.

Unfortunately OP, I think you may live in Royston Veasey, where the local shop (and everything else) is for local people only.

Can I just clarify for the likes of ickle a migrant, a refugee, an asylum seeker and an immigrant are not the same thing at all.

I remember turning up at my son's student house when he was at university, he and housemates all thought they were oh so green and even voted Green. However, the state of their MO told a different story, so much of their household waste, mainly comprising of empty bottles and tinnies, just wasn't recycled dumped outside the front door. My son had half the Amazon jungle in pizza boxes under his bed, just why He told me the neighbours don't like us, "I wonder why says I". I sympathise with anyone who lives next door to students, I'm sure there are exceptions but I think quite a lot give little consideration to their neighbours and environment around them even though the environment particularly is supposed to be something they care about.

Wow this really has caused a lively debate.

I'd like to think most people would get along just fine if we weren't blinkered by the media as to the real problems. It's not the average person causing the most change to our communities, it's poor management of the communities and resources by local and central government.

Also - during the term time we are inundated with flyers for take-ways, of which there are about half a dozen all together in a row and open into the early hours. One applied for a drinks licence until 5am - not sure if it was granted.