Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

Me too Callistemon and I'm happy to say that my local council has, for the last few years, been building homes for families, with an emphasis on housing for special needs/disabilities.
At the western edge of the town a new ( affordable and more expensive ) estate will start soon - along with new infrastructure to include a campus for nursery/ primary/ secondary schools.
Private investment plus input from the 3 neighbouring council areas will not only provide for new incoming families but will address issues concerning existing local schools and communities.
If you'd like to move to one of the best places to live in Scotland you may have to get a move on!

You can’t tell people where they should live, I’m sure if you wanted to move to another area you wouldn’t expect anybody to stop you. I know younger people would like to see euthanasia at 70 as older people are such a drain on resources ! But haye we worked hard for this country and should be allowed to live the way we want to in retirement and believe it or not older age is creeping up on all of you ??

Don’t you ,when living in such a desirable area sort of create your own problems, that you seem endlessly to complain about. Just who do you think it is who are selling their houses to these ‘incomers’.Why its you of course, it’s the oh so innocent locals , who see the idiots from the city, desperate for a little rural idyll, and hoyk up the price of their homes so their young , just trying to get on the ladder youngsters ,can’t afford to buy them. Of course it is....you see the idiot coming all the way from the city and think to yourselves...stuff the next generation of our villagers...let’s make a humongous profit! I think you should suck it up...cos your own greed has created the problem. Why don’t you sell your house to a up and coming local youngster for well below what you could get from an idiot from the city. Put you profit where your mouth is.

And the Vikings were no better Cherrytree!

Its all gone downhill since those pesky Romans came here with their ?
and started building aquaducts, roads and providing sanitation and education.
not mentioning the wall!

Well we have worse,use to be a real family area but lots of houses bought up and turned into student homes.Sadly the ones who move in are rude and think its ok to play loud music alot and the shouting and screaming is terrible .None of them ever what to be part of the community they just want to take over as they tell as and we they say have to put up with it .

I don't live near any of those, am glad they mentioned schools. Someone who thinks Stamford is in the Midlands and Bedford in the East needs a geography lesson!

Another view of the Ouseburn showing some of the inhabitants of the farm.

The Ouseburn

Chewbacca The reason small butchers, bakers, iron mongers etc have deserted small towns and villages is nothing to do with the presence or otherwise of incomers.
It’s because most people who live in the small towns and villages prefer to go to Tesco or Lidl or Waitrose fog their food, and B&Q or Homebase for their hardware.

I’ve just looked at the ST best places article for the Northeast. You have to bear in mind the mindset of the person writing the article.
It suggests the Ouseburn in Newcastle,
The Ouseburn until quite recently has been a run-down, semi derelict industrial area.
Now, there are bars, a few hipster type restaurants, a gallery or two and a few music venues. There’s an urban farm too, and a children’s centre called Seven Stories.
It does have a certain charm.

But no schools, GP surgeries or really anywhere to live.
I doubt if the person writing the article even came to Newcastle. Or perhaps they were just taking the p*ss.

I am both dismayed at some of the dreadful comments on here, and thoroughly heartened by some of the others.

paddyann you say it's the English who put up no trespassing signs etc. Do I take it the whenever you encounter such a sign you obtain a full national history of those responsible? After all you wouldn't want to miss that maybe one of their parents or grandparents was anything other than English. My neighbours are from all parts of the world, London tends to be very cosmopolitan. Should I make something of the fact the drug dealer 3 doors up is Scottish, and had no problem dealing his "funny fags" to children as young as 12?

Nonnie Your young man who had lived all his life in London and never met his neighbours, All I can say is what an insular unfriendly person! When we moved to our house as a newly married couple we made a point of introducing ourselves to our neighbours. As people have moved away and new people move in we make a point of greeting them. If he and his family couldn't be bothered to make that effort why expect it of others?

Ditto Terribull. Our "One of the 48 Best Places to Live" village used to have banks, bakers, butchers, ironmongers, a chippy etc too. Now we have "artisan coffee shops" selling 25 different types of coffee; "interior designers" crap ornaments and bistros. Bus service long gone. Old fashioned pubs closed because the cocktail bars are more popular with the young people.

People and places change as needs change with time. If you don't like it.... move out. I am.

Totally agree with you Cosmos. Those retiring to an area are looking to make it their forever home. They are looking to integrate and make friends, join clubs and societies, spend their hard saved pensions. The blight on the landscape are those that buy holiday homes for exorbitant prices which prevent locals from buying them as the prices are well out of their range - push local people to move to other areas. Some areas are denuded of people during the winter season as the majority are holiday homes not hoes for young families who would cherish them and be part of a local community. Your barbs should be aimed at the holiday home owners, Specs.

Is the village Royston Vasey?
A Local village for Local people! ?

"So in the Sunday Times today a magazine about the 48 best places to move to and live in Britain.....be very afraid if you live in one of these places" I am , my town's there! I'm thrilled and afraid in equal measures I've been here nearly 35 years, it has become far more yuppified of late, I never took my children out for boiled egg and soldiers at the weekends, that would have been a complete waste of money in my day, not that there were such places. Now my high street is awash with chi chi coffee shops and you're lucky to get into one of them on a Saturday or Sunday Anyway, as one kind MN pointed out a while back, pensioners shouldn't be cluttering up the high street at the weekends when they have all week at their disposal. Always good to know your place

So in the Sunday times today a magazine about the 48 best places to move to and live in Britain.. be very afraid if you live in one of these places
I've just checked, Chewbacca and whoever posted this first (can't find the post) and yes, I do live in one of those towns and yes, they are going to build many new houses. In fact they already seem to have started.

Must try to find my NIMBY tie.

I loved and grew up in liverpool, went to the NE which I again loved plus loved the friendly welcoming people. Loved living in the lake district, hated N wales which was very unwelcoming to a young couple with 2 small children. Loved very much S Wales where we stayed for 35 years. Then moved again after retirement, not to that seaside county but to a rural county betwixt and between children. I think we were pretty representative of a young family moving with work

Shortly moving again, slightly away from my quiet rural idyll, need shops and buses. Went on a visit the other day and spoke to 5 different strangers. There must be something about certain parts of the country, very very welcoming. I have to say that no wonder the SE gets a bad press, all those people and all those stabbings. No wonder it is called a c* pit. We only ever hear the bad stuff from the media

What's more important - people or place? When I was widowed I chose people which why I'm back in Notts.
lovebeigcardigans People are important which is why I'd love to be back in Devon

Churcky thank you for your post Sun 14-Apr-19 11:24:55
I've never actually thought of the Scots and the English as different races - I've lots of Scottish friends and European relations too and there are good and bad (annoying) people everywhere.

A friend from years ago used the word "parochial" to describe people who are narrow-minded and this thread brought that word to mind.

A house is worth the asking price of the seller!!! Not the other way around!!!

notanan2 - in general young people move to more urban areas where there is a greater variety of employment and also chances for moving up the ladder. Chances are, they'll meet someone from another part of the country and remain together in a city until they too decide to move to the country. But which part?

Rural areas are great for children to live in - plenty of freedom (if their parents allow it) - and also for those who wish for a quieter life as they get older.

Some of the above comments remind me of rural Wales back in the sixties and seventies. As young adults my OH and I used to visit west Wales regularly and I used to fantasize about the ruined cottages, nestling in little overgrown corners. Of course we had no money with which to buy one. At the same time the Welsh were burning houses owned by English people but it was the Welsh who had moved out from the old wrecks to new housing, having sold the wreck in the process. A few years later the same thing went on in Brittany.

There is a comment above about buy to let investors selling up but somewhere along the line those properties were sold by somebody local.

Come on Specs, lighten up!! I’m Cornish born and bred, family can be traced back to the 1500’s. We are use to people retiring/ moving here to our beautiful county and buying/renting homes, (which Cornish people sell to!!). We do struggle, with faculties especially our ONE main hospital and our schools etc to cope with influx especially in the summer. Our main income now is the hospitality trade due to losing our mining and China clay industries ?. Sometimes I don’t hear a Cornish accent all day, but love to hear others accents !! Also our grown children do move away, sometimes because they can’t jobs here or they actually want to!!

Specs I think you are yearning for a way of life that we had pre Norman Conquest so lets blame them.

Last September O.H. and I rented holiday cottage in a beautiful village just a few miles outside Perth.
I treated myself to a cut and blow dry at the village hairdresser one afternoon.
During the chat with the hairdresser I was quite shocked at how abrupt her attitude was. She asked me are you another of our WHITE SETTLERS who has just moved here or are you on holiday?
When I said we were on holiday her attitude softened. When I read the post it just reminded me of my experience last summer. I am no shrinking Violet , but I remember being taken aback at her attitude. I'd forgotten about it until I read this post.

Greed and money is why you are suffering.
But it is not greed - a house is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Why should anyone sell their house at a loss or accept less out of the goodness of their heart? The people selling have to buy elsewhere or perhaps even need to fund care home fees.

In my experience, retirees often prefer to purchase bungalows whereas young people looking to purchase their first home would in most instances prefer a house or flat.

Not easy - whatever you do has knock-on effects. I was born & brought up in a fairly low income area, where my family goes back hundreds of years.
I left to train as a nurse, always expecting to return, but I met & married a Londoner - we settled somewhere that was between the 2 families - actually a very deprived area where our skills and training were welcomed, and our children happy. I liked it and was especially grateful for good schools, but it always felt like a 'posting'.
Come retirement I felt a huge pull to my 'home' which my DH didn't feel especially - his family had always moved around for work and he felt no 'roots'. I asked him to 'come home' with me, and we have been happy.
I see both the 'insider' and 'outsider' points of view, although I think the biggest issue is maybe numbers /proportion? Here the 'outsider' retirees and commuters are still a 'trickle'and their enthusiasm and skills are welcomed. But I can understand OP's pov.