Childhood Obesity

Now they are home at just turned 3:00 pm near me

A lot of children and young people have very long days. An hour in a club before school and finishing at 6. Some youngsters are on public or local authority transport for hours.

Not a healthy life at all.

I see from a newspaper article today that being underweight and not eating properly is a far bigger problem among the elderly than obesity in the general population. Apparently the over 60's became used to dieting and don't eat enough fat and calories which we need as we age.

I think part of the problem with children eating on the hoof these days is the over busy lifestyle. Two parents often out at work and no one to feed the children when they all ( parents included) get home. They are tired. Or again it is single parenting and the parent is exhausted. ( I am leaving out those "problem" families where fast food is a lifestyle that fits around gaming and boozing and getting a fix. There are those too where I live).

I had a mother at home and a father at work. Mum had meals on the table. I work part time and despite everything still find sometimes I cannot manage to have dinner on the table. My husband is now retired, so that helps. My mother helps on occasions too.

In the past children were in school from 9:00 am - 4:00 pm. Now they are home at just turned 3:00 pm near me. They start at 8:30 am. Even they are tired! Have you ever noticed how being tired sometimes makes you reach for the quick snack and sugary drink?

Parents getting them out often have to drop them off on their own way to work and so the thing goes on and on in a vicious circle.

maybe everyone needs a lifestyle change.

But I still do not think obesity is as big a problem as is often made out. It is certain groups and we all have to pay the price of the food police for it.

First, how about if your diabetic and need to eat? I really think this ban has not been thought out, how is it going to be policed. It would be far better for councils to cut back on the fast food outlets in their area and bring in more education for the parents, it has to come from the parents.

I have a bus stop opposite our house and there is a father and two young children waiting for a bus. Both children are eating something and holding a soft drink bottle, its probably breakfast and let us somehow make children walk to school instead of driving the half a mile, like my neighbour

We were never allowed to eat in the street as children. My mum said it makes it look like you hadn't had enough food whilst indoors, and it was bad manners. Even if we were 'straving' while playing outside with friends we did not bother with food as we did not want to miss out on playing. I can remember running in one day for tea and standing at the kitchen sink and drinking two large glasses of water as i was so thirsty but hadn't wanted to miss out with friends. Now children take a bottle of water, etc, with them where ever they go.

I have recently begun to read the book by Tim Spector called the 'The Diet Myth'. Spector is a Professor at Kings College, London and described as in the top 1% of cited scientists world wide.

He has been studying the natural biome, mainly the over 2lbs of bacteria etc that lives in our guts and the contribution it makes to our health and weight. There is a close connection between the range of bacteria present in the biome and the level of variety in a person's diet and the extent that they eat processed food. Those with the poorest diets and the least number of different species in their biome have the most weight problems. Weight gain is not necessarily a function of how much you put your mouth, as what you put in your mouth. Generally the lower family income, the more likely they are to be relient on cheap over-processed food.

I understand aprilrose's argument, but would modify it. She is obviously quite young and the rate of childhood obesity has been growing long term. I started school in 1948 and today's children are significantly better nourished and larger than children in school with me.

The other thing that affects is childhood obesity is income. The higher the family income, the fewer children are overweight. I live opposite the primary school in an affluent commuter village in south Oxfordshire. Obesity among children there is unobservable.

My DGC go to a school in York. Their school catchment area covers, in about even quantities, a large council estate, still mainly in public ownership with many families there having every difficulty from drug use, poverty and disability and half from a prosperous, but not affluent, area of pleasant interwar semis and new estates. When I collect DGS from school, I do see a significant number of visibly overweight children.

I may be out of turn here but am I the only person not totally convinced by the obesity arguments? Admission, I have a child. I had my child when most people are becoming grans, hence I fit here better than netmums. I do not see the obesity constantly spoken of. I do not think anymore children are fat than were when I was at school That's just an observation.

I am inclined to think that obesity goes with other lifestyle issues, like parents not being there, mothers who prefer to go to the KFC than feed their children. I think sweets and biscuits are less of a problem that fast food and processed food in supermarkets.

Obesity has become one of those moral panic things.

I’ve said this before, but it would make more sense if they stopped serving puddings for school lunches. I know there is a choice of fruit usually but what sweet toothed five year old is going to chose that over chocolate brownie? ( seen on school menu) .Pizza with potato wedges?
Another bugbear of mine is the junk food in hospital vending machines.Total hypocrisy ( sp?)

that should be" barmy idea"

Is it OK then to eat in a car? If children are on public transport at least they will get some exercise whereas those dropped and picked up at the school gate won't. How many of them climb in the car and open a chocolate bar or a bag of crisps? Should we ban eating in cars as well? Maybe we could have food police who wait at traffic lights or bus stops or patrol trains carrying black plastic bags they drop confiscated food into.It's a barmy idea!!!

The idea is quite ridiculous and non enforceable. Chikdren today are micromanaged, with almost all their movements being supervised by adults. Playing out with their friends no longer exists. They used to get far more exercise than they do today, both playing outside and playing more sport at school. It needs a multi-disciplinary approach; teaching basic cookery and nutrition to children as they are growing up, with more exercise at school as our streets are now no longer safe for unsupervised play. This would be more beneficial than trying to police where people can eat.

I read an article, don’t ask me when and where, that said that parents seem to be a bit blind when it’s comes to their child’s chubbiness.

I have just been researching trips from Sydney to Melbourne.
No eating on their bus. It’s quite a long journey so we’ll be going by train.

Daisymae I guess someone else had to step up to the plate.

Well at least it's something. Childhood obesity is a real issue. Parents seem to be abdicating responsibility so I guess someone else had to step up to the plate.

I agree with the poster who asked "How will banning snacks on public transport help?" Even IF people adhere to it for their short ride they will probably just stuff their faces at the bus stop and when they get off? So what would you do now...Ban ALL eating outside? Ban popcorn and fizzy drinks at cinemas? Ban chips and Pizza etc in kiddies play barns? (not pointing the question at anyone in particular btw)

From my knowledge, school kids are given plenty of advice about healthy eating (certainly my lot are) Do they like it or stick to it? No! It is up to the adults to ensure they don't over snack on sugary sweets and choose wisely. I admit some never will and I don't know what the answer to that is, but Heaven help us all if it ever came that we had "the sugar police" to watch out for.

"I saw you eating a fruit pastel on the number 49 that will be £70 fine please"

WHO study of childhood obesity in 94 countries.

Daft idea. I travel on public transport a lot but rarely see children (or adults) eating. If we go on a long journey we have to take food as my husband is diabetic and has to eat at regular intervals.

Eating on public transport does not mean eating junk, nor does it mean eating snacks. At various times I have taken sandwiches, fruit and a drink on a train or coach to eat my lunch, or occasionally an evening meal, while I travelled.

In fact when I went by Eurostar from St Pancras to Marseille, I ate breakfast on the London - Paris leg, as my train was delayed and I didn't have time to go to a cafe for breakfast but bought a croissant and coffee and consumed them on board. In Paris, my sister and I purchased our lunch at the station and took it on board to be eaten on the long trip south.

Silly idea from some silly idiot.

Had fission chips in town yesterday, felt very naughty ?

This idea is never going to fly. Who's going to police it? Like others here, I was raised to not eat in the street and I think the current obsession with snacks is weird, but banning snacks on transport isn't going to win the war on obesity.

If the children are living on junk surely the parents have to take some responsibility .I know I'm fortunate ,we dont have many fast food outlets here ,one McDonalds and the usual chip shops and they aren't near schools .Its school dinners or packed lunches ..or go hungry.We live in an area where children are still out on bikes and being active ,my GD was wakeboarding in the Clyde on Sunday ..frozen to the bone but had a brilliant time .

I dont think banning food on ransport will be the answer,surely they'll just eat it quicker so they dont miss the bus

It's only local public transport they are talking about.

I agree btw that eating on the streets etc is not desirable. Like the OP, I had it drummed into me at school and just could not bring myself to eat in the street. Sitting at a table on a long-distance train ride however, yes I would.

I agree, I don't think this is practical at all. How is a bus driver supposed to stop people eating on the bus? They can't even stop young people taking knives on public transport, let alone a Cornish pasty!!

Both my grandsons are thin and fit. But have always been very active (huge encouragement from parents).

I’m yet to be convinced over the public transport ban. I’m not sure it is enforceable. What about long train journeys! You can’t expect people to starve on a long journey. Domestic plane travel? Even long coach journeys. Commuters often eat breakfast on the train. The trolley is always on the commuter train.

TBH I don’t think it’s been thought through.

I do agree though that constant snacking is not desirable.